Let us hope the unions do not kill off the investment will killer wages.

Have you lost your way? FR is down the cesspool and on your right.

This deal came to life BECAUSE OF A DEAL W/ THE UNION.

And paying people good wages helps everybody around the auto plant
besides just the workers. People can hire companies to fix their hoimes,
go out for meals, send their kids to school, get medical care, and save
for retirement.

more money=more potential customers

Unions were fine and necessary ---until they went mad and made demands that were unsustainable.. That is all I'm saying; be reasonable. Look to the steel mills and car manufacturers to see the fall out of unreasonable demands.

They have their problems but outsourcing jobs and industry is not one of them.

Unions gave America a middle class, a 40 hour week, and help to build this country.

It was horrible.

or Paul Ryan.

now would we? Damn unions and their high wages. How's a millionaire supposed to get ahead these days.

You don't have a clue!

If you have a problem with killer wages you need to complain to corporations that pay their executives.

because calling middle class wages "killer" is exactly what's killing the middle class.

But let's not have a mind set that continues to divide the country. we need to be better than the GOP- we need to be reasonable or we all fail.

Quit blaming middle class workers for problems they didn't cause. The fact that an auto worker can put his kids through college and enjoy a decent middle class life should not be an offensive notion. Go back to freerepublic.

All Hail Corporate!

Again, get lost. We don't like you.

Unreasonable wages??

that you expect Americans to do these jobs at Mexican wages? Your labor views may not afford you a warm welcome here.

I bet you think CEO's making 3500 times what the guy on the shop floor makes is just peachy though, right?

Cause I'd be real interested in hearing it.

dropping. Does that make you feel better. And Ford would never have come back except the unions most likely agreed to work for low wages. How low do you think wages should get?

along with the profits. Instead, wages have been stagnant for decades and have even gone down for some. We need to insist on good wages for our fellow workers instead of hoping they have to settle for less.

We aren't misinformed by right wing misinformation. We know better.

Has Ford moved, or planned to move, any production BACK to Mexico?

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I have a 1998 Ford F-150 and the sucker just keeps on going. Besides my VW bug, one of the best most reliable vehicles out there. Kudos to Ford!

....many of those miles on back country dirt/gravel roads with washboards and pot holes.
We use the 4WD a lot during the wet season.

The 5 speed manual transmission makes it fun to drive.
We love it.
Very tough little truck.
Dependable.
Always gets us home.



I drove GM before this little Ford Truck,
but now I'm a convert.

mine is an 05 with 152k on it. Mileage is horrible, of course. I ride the motorcycle to work, and the wife only uses around town. When money gets better, though, I have been looking at the Focus.

on edit: and a rec for good union news.

Strong Auto Unions!!!!!!!! Lets hope like in the past that wages comes up to the cost of living and set the standards of keeping the middle class from falling more so into poverty.

K&R

"Moving the work from Mexico will preserve the jobs of 1,600 workers at the Avon Lake factory and honors an agreement Ford made with the United Auto Workers union in 2011 contract negotiations, Hinrichs said. No new jobs will be created and Ford’s labor costs will be unchanged by the move, he said.

“What’s going on with Ohio is really the utilization of the plant and the experienced employees we have there,” Hinrichs said. "


http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-03-07/ford-to-move-pickup-production-from-mexico-to-ohio-van-plant

And from the same article:

"The U.S. has surpassed Mexico as the preferred place to relocate manufacturing that had been moved offshore, according to an online survey of 143 senior executives conducted in January and February by consultant AlixPartners of Southfield, Michigan. It was the first time in the four years of the study’s existence that the U.S. was chosen over Mexico.

Forty-two percent of manufacturing executives identified the U.S. as their preferred location, up from 37 percent a year earlier, while Mexico fell to 28 percent from 37 percent. "

also becoming a part of the picture.

various manufacturing facilities they have.

He's their top engineering guy.

He told me that the biggest problem they have is employees that get trained in operations, screw things up, and then wait for him to show up and fix them instead of grabbing the bull by the horns and doing what they were trained to do.


His employer is getting frustrated trying to get his people to show initiative instead of waiting for a company fireman to come and fix it for them, but they are making the same mistakes over and over again.

They are considering moving operations back to this country.

listening to the folks on the ground and quit screaming for more outsourcing.

.....AFTER wages and Benefits were driven down for Workers in the US.

Avon Lake Assembly has been there since 1974. No tax breaks needed.

There won't be any extra jobs added at the plant, just 1600 jobs preserved (see the article in my post #19).

until 2026 as long as they don't eliminate any more positions.

That means that the infrastructure cost to support the plant is shifted to the employees and, even more importantly,

to a captive taxpayer. That means that even if a guy is a dyed in the wool progressive fighting hard to bring in EVs and HSR, he is subsidizing that thing he wants to replace.

And even if the POV is a dying technology akin to a stable and horse drawn wagon, that technology is being artificially propped up by a gov't instead of doing innovations.

It is the antithesis to the free market.

Ford want to invest in American workers and the Economy?

Sounds like something the rw will hate because it helps the American Economy.. am I right?