UPDATED: Ryan’s Free School Lunch ‘Horror’ Story Never Happened
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Paul Ryan's Free School Lunch Story Never Actually Happened
CATHERINE THOMPSON MARCH 7, 2014, 9:36 AM EST
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) fired up the audience Thursday at the Conservative Political Action Conference with an anecdote about what he called the heartlessness of giving out free school lunches -- but it turns out that "moving" story never really happened.
Ryan used a story about a young boy choosing a lovingly made brown bag lunch over a free school meal, relayed to him by Wisconsin Department of Children and Families Secretary Eloise Anderson, to illustrate that Democrats offer Americans a "full stomach and an empty soul."
But when Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler looked into that tale, he gave it "four pinocchios" because Anderson presented it out of context.
Kessler found Anderson told the story at a 2013 congressional hearing that Ryan chaired, and claimed she had spoken to the boy herself. Kessler notes her story closely paralleled an exchange from a book called "An Invisible Thread," in which an executive offers to either give a young, homeless panhandler money to eat for the week or else make lunch for him each day. The boy insists on having his lunch made for him in a brown-paper bag, because that means "somebody cares" about him.
Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul_ryan_school_lunch_never_happened
A story too good to check: Paul Ryan and the story of the brown paper bag
BY GLENN KESSLER
March 6 at 10:07 pm
The left is making a big mistake here. What theyre offering people is a full stomach and an empty soul. The American people want more than that. This reminds me of a story I heard from Eloise Anderson. She serves in the cabinet of my buddy, Governor Scott Walker. She once met a young boy from a very poor family, and every day at school, he would get a free lunch from a government program. He told Eloise he didnt want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown-paper bag just like the other kids. He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand.
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, March 6, 2014
This was an interesting statement made by the 2012 GOP vice presidential candidate, equating school lunches to an empty soul. So one would think the anecdote, described by the National Review as moving, would be rock-solid. But the story seemed a bit pat.
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The Pinocchio Test
Here at The Fact Checker, we often deal with situations in which people misspeak. We certainly dont try to play gotcha. But this is a different order of magnitude. Anderson, in congressional testimony, represented that she spoke to this childand then ripped the tale out of its original context. Thats certainly worthy of Four Pinocchios.
But what about Ryan? Should he get a pass because he heard this from a witness before Congress? It really depends on the circumstances. In this case, he referenced the story in a major speech. The burden always falls on the speaker and we believe politicians need to check the facts in any prepared remarks.
In this case, apparently, the story was too good to check. We appreciate he is regretful now. But a simple inquiry would have determined that the person telling the story actually is an advocate for the federal programs that Ryan now claims leaves people with a full stomach and an empty soul. So he also earns Four Pinocchios.
Four Pinocchios
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/06/a-story-too-good-to-check-paul-ryan-and-the-story-of-the-brown-paper-bag/
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UPDATE:
Paul Ryan discovers there's no free lunch
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So we start with a story about a harried sales executive learning about life from an abandoned child. That gets transformed, via the Republican wringer, into a lesson about the supposedly soul-sapping effect of a government nutritional program, and thence into a reproach to "the left," which doesn't care about the souls of our children, only about making sure they're, you know, fed. This is how the old game of "Telephone" is played in Washington today.
Once outed, Ryan issued an apology of sorts via his Facebook page: "I have just learned that Secretary Anderson misspoke, and that the story she told was improperly sourced. I regret failing to verify the original source of the story, but I appreciate her taking the time to share her insights." Well, no. The story Anderson told was fabricated, her "insights" specious.
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The speciousness of the school lunch story underscores the real issue with Ryan's approach to anti-poverty programs: He gets them wrong. One of his big points is that these programs create a "poverty trap" that discourages their recipients from working their way out of poverty--by their bootstraps, as it were.
He cites a 2012 Congressional Budget Office report to the effect that the poverty programs impose a marginal tax rate of 100% on some households, which he says works to "penalize families for getting ahead."
But this is another item from Ryan's fast-and-loose connection. The hike in marginal tax rates is a well-known artifact of all means-tested programs, whose benefits phase out with rising income. For example, if by earning $1,000 more a recipient loses $1,000 in benefits, that's effectively a 100% tax on that thousand dollars.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-no-free-lunch-20140307,0,6101775.story#ixzz2vNDFKKlJ
Thank you Botany for this Update!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014748000#post26
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Ryan's FaceBook page, where he's being called a "POS" and other assorted names:
https://www.facebook.com/paulryanwi
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I don't think anything that's ever spewed from his piehole is connected in any way to reality.
Also, I can't be the only one that finds his attempts to connect on a personal level during a speech totally creepy. When I hear him sigh, the eyebrows go up and his forehead crinkles I know he's going to try and project a "I'm really a normal guy and I feel your pain vibe.
Instead he comes across like the guy with a windowless white panel van trying to give away free candy at a playground.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)that the person is lying to experts who pick up on micro-expressions. Paul Ryan does it a lot. He thinks it makes his big blue innocent eyes look bigger, bluer and more innocent.
EC
(12,287 posts)and the knitting of the eyebrows. Ted Cruz does it a lot too.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)And then there's this.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)And if that's how you do bicep curls, your form sucks.
You're turning your shoulder and bending at the hips. Also, your elbow is not tucked into your body. That is proof positive 40 lbs is too much for you!
Asshole!
siligut
(12,272 posts)He wants to believe he is better-than-thou, so he cheats and lies and sells-out. In the real world, as you say, he wouldn't stand a chance. Deep down he knows this and that makes him even more of an asshole because he tries to compensate.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)And he hates poor kids.
malthaussen
(17,199 posts)... and I always love the results.
-- Mal
onehandle
(51,122 posts)[IMG][/IMG]
riversedge
(70,236 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)one hundred times more than Paul looks like Eddie!
BumRushDaShow
(129,045 posts)erronis
(15,274 posts)There'll be a great story someday, I hope, about how the whole lot of them were bought out, run out, sold out, and otherwise disposed of - all to make way for a group of bought for and owned stooges.
merrily
(45,251 posts)William Seger
(10,778 posts)... they might care about his parents have a living wage. Fuck off, Ryan.
renate
(13,776 posts)In other words, I couldn't agree with you more, and I can't believe your statement isn't the headline in every newspaper that has written on this. I don't understand what Ryan was trying to say unless he really was claiming that kids would rather go hungry than eat a lunch that didn't come from home... where they don't have food...?
merrily
(45,251 posts)Or maybe giving a damn whether he ate or not.
Hey, if you're going to dream, dream big!
Botany
(70,508 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)for washing all those pots and pans. Hell you can still see the creases in it, from being folded.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)"What the hell is that idiot doing?"
Zambero
(8,964 posts)This sort of self-serving contrived "concern" is worse than the lying that accompanies it.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Wisconsin Department of Children and Families Secretary Eloise Anderson appears to have lied to Congress.
Mr Issa?
merrily
(45,251 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)No goddamn kid will ever turn down free food. Ever. Rich, poor, black, white--it is a universal maxim that no kid will turn down free food.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Would Jesus have told that lie, Mr. TeaPuke?
Crickets.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Plays well in the Red States.
Scairp
(2,749 posts)He is incapable of saying anything truthful. He's taken a page out of the Romney playbook, saying whatever it takes to try and get the nomination. What a scumbag.
calimary
(81,281 posts)Although the word "phony" also starts with a "p." I guess he's a member in good standing of the rand paul make-up-your-own-professional-certification club.
BumRushDaShow
(129,045 posts)which definitely applies here.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)he acts human, he speaks like a human, but he just doesn't have that extra "something" that actually makes him human.
as I wrote on another site, it's as if the right wing has a secret lab somewhere making clones and using memories extracted from people they kill and installing them in these drones masquerading as actual humans.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I always get the feeling with Ryan that he's an alien desperately trying to imitate humans in order to look human. He almost pulls it off at times, but never quite gets there.
One key human quality is empathy...the ability to understand others. That's totally lacking in Ryan.
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)Cheers!
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Every right wing site and "news" source will repeat what Ryan said as if it were a fact, and in the minds of those that subscribe to that shit it will become fact.
And you can bet they will call into Cspan and present it as a fact.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)No one gives a damn. To conservatives this is the best of both worlds. Empty soul, empty stomach.
Botany
(70,508 posts)Once outed, Ryan issued an apology of sorts via his Facebook page: "I have just learned that Secretary Anderson misspoke, and that the story she told was improperly sourced. I regret failing to verify the original source of the story, but I appreciate her taking the time to share her insights."
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-no-free-lunch-20140307,0,6101775.story#ixzz2vIiNOa5y
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)lark
(23,102 posts)if they were given out for every lie or distortion he speaks.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)From the age of 16, when his 55-year-old father died of a heart attack, until he was 18, Ryan received Social Security payments, which, according to a lengthy profile in WI Magazine, he put away for college. The eventual budget czar attended Miami University in Ohio to earn a B.A. in economics and political science, and landed a congressional internship as a junior.
Ryans congressional ascent, all the way to the top spot on the Budget Committee, began with his Social Security-funded college education.
Ryans so-called Roadmap for Americas Future budget plan proposed machete-like cuts most notably to social services like Medicare and Social Security. Pauls idea was to invest portions of Social Security funds in Wall Street, essentially forcing future recipients to make unsecured investments with with money theyll later need for retirement and endangering survivor benefits like the ones he received.
Ryan credits his fathers death and the care of his grandmother as giving him first-hand experience as to how social service programs work, WI Magazine wrote, referencing his Alzheimers-stricken grandmother, also a beneficiary of the social programs Ryan now opposes, who moved in with Ryan and his mother after his father died.
Without the Social Security benefits he received, Ryan would have had more difficulty attending college, and wouldnt have become Wisconsins fiscal dreamboat, as the profile dubs him, or, as Democrats nationwide have painted him, the Enemy Number 1 to seniors and social services.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/20/paul-ryan-already-benefitted-from-the-social-security-fund-he-now-wants-to-gut/
Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)What a surprise...
erronis
(15,274 posts)But then I'd have to feel sorry for 90% of congress...
Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)And this jerkwad thinks the kid has a problem because of it? I bet his mother made him school lunches and he felt loved because of it.
Initech
(100,078 posts)riversedge
(70,236 posts)You know nothing good is to come if you read or listen past this comment!
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)When I was 12 and my father abandoned us (financially), I was terrified we would starve because my mother's full time job couldn't pay all the bills and still allow us to buy food. When she explained that we could get food stamps from the government, my thought was "Wow, our country actually cares about us and won't let us starve!....this must be why America is the best country in the world!!" I was soooo relieved and felt so good about my generous fellow Americans.
That is until I witnessed the reactions of other people in the checkout line when they saw our food stamps.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Cha
(297,250 posts)"In this case, apparently, the story was too good to check. We appreciate he is regretful now. But a simple inquiry would have determined that the person telling the story actually is an advocate for the federal programs that Ryan now claims leaves people with a full stomach and an empty soul. So he also earns Four Pinocchios."
Somebody brilliant needs to photoshop the LIAR with 4X the Pinocchio Nose. Oh Wait..
jsr
(7,712 posts)'Nuf said.
tea and oranges
(396 posts)It's still one anecdote! One! One child. One strange child. It would still have no significance whatsoever.
To this day I can't look at Paul Ryan w/o seeing Joe Biden's head laughing at him. That VP debate was awesome.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Without their lies they would have nothing at all.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)So transparent and like *, so dangerously moronic
TBF
(32,062 posts)without lying. I think there may be something psychologically wrong that needs to be tended to.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)is sickening
Just proves the point: If their lips are moving, they're lying.
frwrfpos
(517 posts)fuck that asshole
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)time for the "Nuns on the Bus" to start following him around again calling him on his bullshit.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)dflprincess
(28,078 posts)That happened years ago - possibly when she was still in the state legislature. I seem to remember it happening not long after she got caught hiding in the bushes spying on the Gay rights rally on the state Capital steps.
Nuns on the Bus popped up in 2012 as a response to the Republican budget cuts. They followed Ryan around because he claims to be a Catholic and the nuns felt he wasn't paying attention to the Catechism. The church has many faults but, along with my parents, I credit the nuns I had in Catechism and their pounding the Acts of Mercy into my head for making me a liberal - (in fact I recall one nun telling us that paying taxes was one way our parents met their responsibility to others).
Sister Simone Campbell was the spokesperson for the nuns. This is a clip from an appearance on the "Colbert Report" explaining how Ryan's budget "fails Jesus & the Consitution".
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/422223/december-13-2012/simone-campbell
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)It's about shit bags.
merrily
(45,251 posts)(Answer: reruns)
Anyone see the Murphy Brown episode featuring "potatoe"s, supposedly in Dan Quayle's driveway?
Hundreds of people with hundreds of little brown sandwich bags and phones need to go to the House, after sending out an appropriate press release. Flood Twitter, Instagrams, Facebook and hopefully get lots of professional press coverage because of the press release, too.
Or people all over the country, do the social media thing wherever you are. You can hold the paper bag in front of your face, to conceal it, if you like.
Or, we could each mail a sandwich bag to Ryan, preferably via USPS.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)It just sounded way too fucked up to have happened the way Paulie claimed.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Because his audience wants to believe it. They'll swallow anything if it fits into their world view.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)The boy wanted not just something to eat, but a sign that someone cared about him. Ryan took that and used it to make an argument that we shouldn't care about/for the poor. Way to pervert the moral of the story, asshole.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)but republicans like Ryan work with business to hold down wages, preventing many parents from even affording brown bag lunches for their child. Shame on you Ryan. Raise the minimum wage and help the poor children. Better yet get rid of Republican Gerrymandering, vote republicans out, and help everyone.