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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 05:44 PM Mar 2014

Trial begins over Ten Commandments monument

Source: Associated Press

Trial begins over Ten Commandments monument
| March 11, 2014 | Updated: March 11, 2014 3:38pm

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — A trial has started in federal court on whether a New Mexico city can have a monument inscribed with the Ten Commandments on the lawn in front of Bloomfield City Hall.

The lawsuit contends the 6-foot-tall granite monument violates the religious freedoms of residents by conveying a message that the city endorses a particular religious belief.

The trial before Senior U.S. District Judge James A. Parker began Monday, the Albuquerque Journal (http://bit.ly/1ctGnd2 ) reported.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed the suit on behalf of two Bloomfield residents who practice the Wiccan religion

"In my opinion, it says that anybody who doesn't agree with this monument on city grounds is an outsider," plaintiff Jane Felix testified. "It has no place on City Hall property."


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Trial-begins-over-Ten-Commandments-monument-5307857.php

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Trial begins over Ten Commandments monument (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2014 OP
+1,000: "It has no place on City Hall property." blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #1
The religious stuff needs to stay in church warrant46 Mar 2014 #3
I don't see how anybody can, after reading the ten commandments, ... surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #2
The constitutional argument aside, defacto7 Mar 2014 #4
I am reminded of this sign.... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #5
Happening all over seabeckind Mar 2014 #6
Funny! freebrew Mar 2014 #7

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
3. The religious stuff needs to stay in church
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:41 PM
Mar 2014


Beside a Christmas tree and creche sits a large banner with a nativity scene in which baby Jesus has been replaced by a plate of spaghetti with googly eyes. A crowd that includes pirates and gnomes surrounds Jesus. At the bottom its message reads “Touched by an Angelhair.” The scene is the work of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monsters.

Near the courthouse fence is another display whose sign reads ”Greetings From Your Friendly Local Atheists.” It’s message is about celebrating the Constitution and honoring the separation of church and state.

Elsewhere on the lawn, a skeleton in a Santa suit hangs on a cross.This has all become part of a battle that has many outraged.

“People are just horrified by this. It’s just created a lot of division, a lot of angst and a lot of people are upset,” Kenneth Reid, Loudoun County supervisor-elect for the Leesburg district, told ABCNews.com.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/virginia-holiday-battle-includes-church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster/

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
2. I don't see how anybody can, after reading the ten commandments, ...
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:34 PM
Mar 2014

... or even, maybe just the first one, say they are not endorsing a specific religion.


How do you get from "I am the lord your God: you should have no other gods", to "this isn't about any particular religion"?

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
6. Happening all over
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 08:49 AM
Mar 2014

ALL over.

I'd almost think it's a conspiracy...one of those strengthen the base things. In Indiana we had an issue with some "christians" who wanted a christian message on a plaque that was installed in a room they endowed -- in a science building.

Initial response was to deny it. But there was such an outcry of persecution and denial of the 1st amendment rights that the university approved it.

Then again, Mitch Daniels runs the place.

On second thought...I don't think it's a conspiracy, I know it.

So how come our federal Attorney General isn't getting involved in these cases? Doesn't he take an oath to uphold th constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic? Aren't these people enemies of the constitution? Or at last get it to the supreme court to define what a enemy is?

Hmm?

(added) What happens if a state is an enemy of the constitution? I seem to remember a war about that -- you know, state's rights...

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
7. Funny!
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:51 AM
Mar 2014

IIRC, the 10 commands isn't Xtian rule. It's the old testament. The new one(Jesus) states that the 10 commands are irrelevant.

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