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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 02:54 PM Apr 2014

Russia Says NATO Reverts To Cold War-Era Mindset

Source: REUTERS

MOSCOW Wed Apr 2, 2014 9:02am EDT

(Reuters) - Russia accused NATO on Wednesday of reverting to the "verbal jousting" of the Cold War by suspending cooperation with Moscow over its annexation of Crimea.

NATO foreign ministers agreed on Tuesday to suspend all practical cooperation with Russia, draft measures to strengthen defenses and reassure nervous eastern European countries in the worst East-West crisis since the Cold War ended in 1991.

Moscow did not announce any measures to retaliate, but Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov expressed concern over the moves in a phone call with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, Russia's Foreign Ministry said.

"The language of the statements rather resembles the verbal jousting of the 'Cold War' era," Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/02/us-ukraine-crisis-nato-russia-idUSBREA3111420140402



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RIA Novosti: Moscow Says NATO's Freeze of Cooperation Reminiscent of Cold War

MOSCOW, April 2 (RIA Novosti) - NATO's decision to suspend cooperation with Russia resembles Cold War-style sword swinging, a Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman said Wednesday.

The 28-nation NATO bloc announced Tuesday it will suspend all practical contacts with Moscow, in a move to put further pressure on Russia following its reunification with Crimea.

"The decision of the NATO Council of foreign ministers to suspend cooperation with Russia in the civilian and military spheres seems like déjà vu," Alexander Lukashevich said, adding that "the language of the announcement is reminiscent of ‘sword swinging' during the Cold War."

The diplomat said the alliance had already frozen the work of the NATO-Russia Council (NRC) in 2008, in the wake of a brief war between Russia and Georgia over South Ossetia. Russia recognized the independence of South Ossetia and another breakaway Georgian region, Abkhazia, shortly after the war, prompting furious criticism from the West.

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http://en.ria.ru/world/20140402/188992215/Moscow-Says-NATOs-Freeze-of-Cooperation-Reminiscent-of-Cold-War.html
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Russia Says NATO Reverts To Cold War-Era Mindset (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2014 OP
I wonder why Russia would think that? Iliyah Apr 2014 #1
Correct me if I'm wrong AAO Apr 2014 #2
The EU association agreement Boreal Apr 2014 #7
Ukraine is not a member of NATO or the EU. former9thward Apr 2014 #8
and the rhetoric from Russia to the Baltic Republics was what? hobbit709 Apr 2014 #3
+1000! n/t ColesCountyDem Apr 2014 #15
What is diplomaticese for Fuck you Russia? Leontius Apr 2014 #4
NATO is appearing sillier and sillier by the moment ... n/t cosmicone Apr 2014 #5
Which country first told the world that they would not send troops into Ukraine, karynnj Apr 2014 #11
Don't bring up facts. They're inconvenient. Russia Rules! NATO Drools! NT Adrahil Apr 2014 #13
None of the troop movements have been verified cosmicone Apr 2014 #14
it is interesting and somewhat amusing Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #21
We've pushed our white arsses kitt6 Apr 2014 #6
Russia was in the G-8, Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #9
Heh. That's funny, Russia. You take the territory of another country you controlled in the Cold War Hosnon Apr 2014 #10
how long does Russia stay in the US's doghouse?...nt quadrature Apr 2014 #12
Until they agree to only accept dollars for their energy n/t Strelnikov_ Apr 2014 #16
Oh please. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #17
It's not just the doghouse of the US. amandabeech Apr 2014 #18
so Obama will be the first to visit Sevastopol ... quadrature Apr 2014 #19
My Swedish friend on Facebook said something about a military alliance between davidpdx Apr 2014 #20
It's has been Cold War Jeneral2885 Apr 2014 #22
 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
2. Correct me if I'm wrong
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 03:13 PM
Apr 2014

But doesn't NATO have agreements with the Ukraine to help for its defense?

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
7. The EU association agreement
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 03:55 PM
Apr 2014

calls for some kind of military cooperation or integration. Sounds like a NATO foot in the door if you ask me.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
11. Which country first told the world that they would not send troops into Ukraine,
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 07:32 PM
Apr 2014

then announced that there were no troops in Ukraine; which country annexed part of another and now has large numbers of troops at their border with Ukraine?

None of this has bothered you.

What is curious is that their puppet, Yankovitch is now whining that he made mistakes - and is unhappy that Russia took Crimea. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014770813

NATO and the US have reacted very cautiously - as they should.

P.S. Your avatar has not spoken against any of this and has backed the Obama administration. Why not swap your avatar for a photo of Putin or some Indian leader you prefer?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
14. None of the troop movements have been verified
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 08:28 PM
Apr 2014

nor is there a video -- it is just generals and peripheral leaders claiming there are 100K troops on the Ukrainian border.

Then there is fear mongering to scare Poland, Hungary et al as though they'll be under imminent attack.

If Russia wanted to gobble up any other part of Ukraine they'd have done it at the same time as Crimea. Why would they prolong the resistance from the world and risk more? So obviously, all they wanted was Crimea which is militarily and strategically extremely important to them and which probably was the primary reason for the CIA staged coup.

So, it is my opinion that NATO is appearing sillier and sillier with all the war mongering. If that bothers your MIC and oil company friends, too bad.

P.S. -- Just because I have a given avatar doesn't mean I agree with 100% of the positions of said avatar. Finally, I'm capable of deciding on my own choice of an avatar without suggestions from you or anyone else, thank you.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
21. it is interesting and somewhat amusing
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:58 AM
Apr 2014

to see how many rail against Russia when its NATO doing the escalation talk in so many ways and Russia is trying to deescalate the situation.

I mean just how many ways have NATO(and the countries belonging to it) been poking at the big bear lately?

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
9. Russia was in the G-8,
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 06:54 PM
Apr 2014

there were joint military activities of all sorts being done with them, trade was being done as normal between countries, Russians went to Ukraine without visas, and so on.
They did this to themselves. Crimea and the agreement on Sevastopol, had that become a bone of contention, could have easily been solved diplomatically.
But Putin wanted those oil & gas reserves that might lie within the economic zone that could be claimed by Crimea. So he took it. Now he's choking on it. Too bad.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
10. Heh. That's funny, Russia. You take the territory of another country you controlled in the Cold War
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 07:09 PM
Apr 2014

era and get all bent out of shape when NATO uses Cold War era language???

Ha.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
17. Oh please.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 09:09 PM
Apr 2014

The USD's status as reserve currency is not remotely threatened by anything Russia or any other supply region could do. Supply regions barely control themselves, much less anything having to do with the way the global economy works.
They catch, they don't pitch.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
18. It's not just the doghouse of the US.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:29 PM
Apr 2014

Other European countries and the other English diaspora countries are quite upset about Russia's recent behavior.

Eventually, the threats and the movement of troops to border regions may be forgiven, but Russia's military takeover of the territory of an independent country, Ukraine, will remembered for quite some time.

NATO was fairly somnolent, but now several NATO countries in Eastern Europe are very alarmed. I read that even Finland and Sweden are planning on strengthening their militaries--Russia staged a middle-of-the-night fake bomber attack on Sweden a few months ago. Swedish pilots were asleep, but NATO jets stationed in Denmark rose to face the Russians. Swedes and Finns were understandably upset by this Russian action. Both Sweden and Finland, neutral countries, now wish to become more active in the regional defense council for Scandinavia and more folks in both countries want to consider joining NATO now, not surprisingly.

When Russia acts aggressively militarily, they should not be surprised if their neighbors look for help.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. My Swedish friend on Facebook said something about a military alliance between
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:51 AM
Apr 2014

Sweden and Finland. I didn't catch exactly why, but it makes sense now. Finland shares a boarder with Russia and Sweden really isn't that far from the Russian boarder either. I can understand if Russia pulled that kind of a stunt how it would push them from being neutral to have a more defensive strategy.

Of course we all know Russia wouldn't hurt a bone in anyone's body right?

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