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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:44 AM Apr 2014

US probing high-speed trading, Attorney General says

Source: Reuters

Attorney General Eric Holder is investigating high-frequency trading to determine if it violates insider trading laws, reports CNBC's Eamon Javers.

The Justice Department is investigating high-speed trading for possible insider trading, Attorney General Eric Holder told lawmakers on Friday.

The disclosure comes the same week that securities regulators and the FBI confirmed they are looking into potential wrongdoing by high-frequency stock traders.

Regulators have been examining whether ordinary investors are at an unfair disadvantage to high-speed traders, who use computer algorithms to rapidly dart in and out of trades to earn fractions of a penny that add up to big profits over time.

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101515474

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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
1. Need a per trade tax on all trading. That would make high speed trading a lot less
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:56 AM
Apr 2014

attractive without unduly penalizing old school trading.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
8. They also need to go back to pricing stock in eighths
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:44 PM
Apr 2014

The things that are highly profitable when the smallest move a stock can make is 0.01 cents don't work at all when the smallest move is 12-1/2 cents.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
16. +1
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 04:42 AM
Apr 2014

That would be the easiest route. Even a fraction of a cent would be enough to break high speed traders while going completely unnoticed by everyone else.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
21. And a minimum "hold" time. You buy a stock, you have to keep it ...
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 05:28 PM
Apr 2014

... for some time. Maybe a second. That's a long-term investment for these machines.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
5. It only took How Many Years?!!
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:19 PM
Apr 2014

...High-frequency trading has taken place at least since 1999, after the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) authorized electronic exchanges in 1998. At the turn of the 21st century, HFT trades had an execution time of several seconds, whereas by 2010 this had decreased to milli- and even microseconds.[24] Until recently, high-frequency trading was a little-known topic outside the financial sector, with an article published by the New York Times in July 2009 being one of the first to bring the subject to the public's attention.[25] On September 2, 2013, Italy became the world's first country to introduce a tax specifically targeted at HFT, charging a levy of 0.002% on equity transactions lasting less than 0.5 seconds....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_trading

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
12. Exactly.. I don't have cable, but he's been on every radio program, from Fresh Air to Forum on NPR
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:44 PM
Apr 2014

and a few other radio programs to boot. He even got a mention on NBR (Nightly Business Report) several nights ago. I nearly fell out of my chair.

On this morning's Forum (KQED-Public Radio) the best interview so far, a question from a caller asked him if he fears for his life now that he's exposed what's going on.

He kind of laughed and said that things were dicey before the book got published and received this attention, but not now that word is out. But he did say the former broker-whistleblower (forgetting his name now) has received a LOT of threats since he started the other exchange. Sorry about forgetting names and acronyms right.. just thought I'd mention it as an aside.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
9. It Took Nine Years
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:49 PM
Apr 2014

to close the fake farmer loophole in Colorado.

Anything to do with the law, lawyers, courts, appeal courts etc... takes years.


It's a start.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
6. How can anyone claim this is "investing"?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:20 PM
Apr 2014

What benefit does my company gain if you buy a share of my stock and then sell it a millisecond later?

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
10. The same as if someone buys a share of your stock and then sells it five years later
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:08 PM
Apr 2014

Think of a share of stock like any other product sold at retail: once it goes out the door, you will earn no more money from it.

PSPS

(13,601 posts)
14. With "Sleepy" Holder on the case, they have nothing to worry about.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:58 PM
Apr 2014

It's almost like Holder is running interference for the criminal class. HFT and front running have been the thing for at least ten years now.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
17. This has been going on for years...
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 07:57 AM
Apr 2014

... and now that there is a book and the questions are mounting, they're "investigating". There is nothing to fucking investigate. How this works is well known and it is FRAUD on it's face.

Holder is beyond useless, a true whore.

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