They have a list of 2 million supporters ready to step in when Hillary announces.

...just like the 17 million people who thought she was best for the U.S.A. in 2008.

But I'll repeat my previous mantra. If you insist on a "real progressive", you'd better get to work finding one. The "Ready for Warren" Facebook page has 7,536 "likes"; I'd say they have a ways to go.

Her love for Wall Street will not awaken the slumbering masses.

You're right, rhett. Hillary loves to play the populist when it suits her. But she enjoys even more giving $200,000 speeches to Wall Street bankers. And when those bankers shell out that kind of bribe money, they expect something big in return.

I'm disappointed in Obama. But should Hillary be elected in 2016, she won't disappoint me. Because I know right now what to expect. And it won't be good.

Personally, I'm REALLY hoping that Bernie Sanders enters the race.

By the way, Sanders is one of the Senate's least-wealthy members. And that's because he won't prostitute himself out for "speeches" (bribes).

If Bernie, or Reich, or Warren can beat Hillary in the primary, they will destroy the Teabag King.

More importantly, her money people have said so too. No money, no campaign. The other two have as much of a chance of winning the nomination as I do.

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Even if she's the nominee? Because I suspect a lot of "real Democrats" don't share your sentiment.

People are just going to stay home.

ties with Wall Street and the 1% will turn off a lot of the centrist undecided. The left will come out but they may not vote for another eight years of Wall Street rule.

If you want a repeat of what happened in 2000, then Clinton-Sachs is your candidate. Just dont blame it on the left.

When Reaganonomics was still unassailable, at least some argument could be made for electing a corporate-loving DLCer who would at least soften the impact around the edges.

Since at least 2004, America has been ready for a progressive president, but the leaders of the Democratic Party block one from taking the reins.

Did they want him because he was biracial? Pretty insulting comment......

I wish they were one and the same, but I have my doubts.

come on HRC do it you know you want this.

Fux and freaks, and the pill popping pig have a running head start.

This is getting to be like one of those tours by some 70's band that will really be the "last" tour. We know you are running, we even on here, there are people trying to kill any and all debate so that 2016 becomes the coronation of Hillary, Imperatrix Americana, just like 2008 was supposed to be.

I have no illusions about being able to stop you, as you have learned from 2008, and as much as you losing in 2016 would see you and your grubby hubby finally shown the door, I know that we cannot allow a GOP into the Oval Office. Yes, oh official Queenmakers, yes, I will vote for her if she wins the nomination, even though if she wins, it will due to the fact that many in this party think the only way to beat the GOP is to become the GOP. However, do not think that my putting off your proclamation that the primary will be allowed to be a victory lap. The left saved your ass in the 90's, where you and your not so better half realized they needed the left to save them after Bill smoked that cigar. You will need us this time, especially since for all your fundrasing prowess, you will need actual substance to beat the Koches and Addison who will shovel billions to whoever the GOP picks.

But I think many who moan and groan about Obama on DU will support Clinton adamantly in the primary if she runs.

In 2008 I backed Obama in the primary and was happy he won. Being from Oregon most of the time the nominee is decided way before our primary comes around. It was nice to feel like I could have a say before it was a "done deal".

Lets hope some good candidates get in the ring regardless of whether anyone thinks they can win. Certainly the first 10 months Obama (prior to Iowa) he was viewed as a long shot. I'm ready for another long shot, someone who they say can't do it. Bring it on!

are delusional. What with, it's hers if she wants it silliness.

Didn't happen in '08 and it won't happen in '16. There will be contenders, and tough ones and most will be better ones than Hillary

Mistaken big ideas become a small reality.

I could do a whole OP on ways that fits this mess. A bunch of rich establishment creeps trying to pretend they are rebellious rock stars. A bunch of people who were cool 20 years ago but who are so dated even the Grateful Dead crowd thinks they are a joke. Champions of excess and hubris.

She has my vote.

Does that come with all the trappings of white collar slavery that pervades the Tech Industry?

Yes?

OK then.



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we can do so much better for those struggling workers, over there.

Please.........

stay, the fuck, home.

She deserves this and is the most qualified person to run for president ever.

She is a politician, she doesn't "deserve" anything. She is more than welcome to try and earn it however.

She has been saying that she's thinking about it since earlier in the year. It's not her fault if people keep asking her that question at every single appearance. They all already know that she's not going to respond until after the midterm elections, but they ask nonetheless.

Around here it gets the usual reaction. Well, too damn bad!!! Millions of people DO want her to run. Of course they'll also be other people in the primaries, but some of you act as if the most popular Democrat in the country shouldn't run for office because it doesn't meet your purity standards. Pretty presumptuous of you, if you ask me.

donated to her personal wealth.

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Come up with something that actually makes sense. She got paid for two speeches. So freaking what? She speaks to various groups several times a week. She's currently a private citizen and can do whatever she wants.

All these harping by some of you is tiresome. It's very simple, come primary time, vote for someone else and be done with it.

we called it corruption. Why wouldnt that apply to Clinton? This was a way for Goldman-Sachs to enrichen Ms. Clinton. Call it an investment or essentially buying a candidate. She should have to wear a sponsor patch. I have no faith that if elected, Clinton-Sachs will continue the love affair with Wall Street while the 99% slide into poverty.

Service that pays pretty damn well, there Clinton! Millions and millions for your 'selfless service'. lol, lord almighty.

Service = Servant. And the Clintons are servant only to their needs for money and power. That b.s. stinks enough to knock one out flat.

No more Bushes, Clintons, Kennedys etc.. etc.. etc...

Coming soon Malia Obama vs Track Palin 2040...

Millions of people in America and we can't find anyone new? What does that say about the sytem?

It's not the case with Jeb, only the establishment folks are pushing him to run. There's no popular surge within the Republican base to see him run for president.

I know I can't wait to cast my vote for some creature that holds none of the same values I do to represent my interests.

As I've said many times I wouldn't vote for Hillary if someone paid me $50,000.

If being "deceived" by GW Bush and voting For Iraq War wasn't bad enough or knowing we would already BE at war with Iran if she was President, what she had to say about the execution of Gaddifi spells it out to me clearly that she is not a person I want to be associated with.

Frankly, I don't care. Reading the crap one reads here is not much different from the crap in RW sites.

The CDS is strong in both places.

Screw your "CDS" crap too.

You want to support a war monger that revels in blood shed, threatens to 'annihilate' countries and get tricked by GW Bush, more power to you.

Don't you dare suggest me not doing so means I'm a right winger or any of the rest of your garbage.

Do you even know or care why she said it? What no one shows is the question from the CBS reporter. Hillary was just being sarcastic and it was supposed to be off the record.

Whatever, who cares............

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ndtv-exclusive-hillary-clinton-on-fdi-mamata-outsourcing-and-hafiz-saeed-full-transcript-207593



Still waiting for her to tell us exactly what engineers and IT people are supposed to train for after their jobs get shipped overseas or get replaced by H-1B visaholders.

Obama camp attacks Hillary's Indian links


When United States Senator Barak Obama entered the American Presidential race, he staked out his turf on the moral high ground with a call for a new kind of politics, devoid of personal attack and characterised by debates on the issues that matter.

His campaign apparently has not been listening: Members of the Senator's campaign staff have been circulating a document that, in its title, slightingly refers to Democratic rival Senator Hillary Clinton as the Democrat from Punjab -- a seeming slur on Clinton's ties with India and Indian Americans.

The three page 'opposition research paper', titled Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)'s Personal Financial and Political Ties, which has begun circulating in the blogosphere, criticises the Clintons' links to India in an effort and attacks her record on outsourcing, and on protecting American jobs.

The D-Punjab reference apparently refers to a joke Senator Clinton made last year, at a fund-raiser hosted by New York-based hotelier and top Democratic fund-raiser Sant Singh Chatwal. 'I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,' she had said on that occasion.

The document references the Clintons' recently released financial disclosure forms, to underline former President Bill Clinton's acceptance of $300,000 for paid speeches from Cisco Systems, a company that, the document notes, has 'shifted hundreds of jobs from America to India.'

More: http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/15clinton.htm

And she's still pushing for an increase in the visa limit...

Still has those Indian ties, eh?

When it comes to selling out American workers.

Did she talk about tech jobs going overseas and increasing the H-1B visa limit?

Did she talk about her support for increasing the H-1B visa limit?

Did she talk about how she co-founded the Senate India caucus with John Cornyn?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2014/04/08/hillary-clinton-comes-to-san-francisco-talks-tech-immigration-and-whether-shell-run-for-office/



Hey, Hillary, THE STEM CRISIS IS A MYTH.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth

Supports: Keystone XL Pipeline
Supports: Fracking
Supports: Iraq War
Supports: Shipping jobs overseas
Supports: Importing cheap labor
Supports: Death penalty

http://www.globalresearch.ca/haiti-open-for-business-sourcing-slave-labor-for-u-s-based-companies/5327292

Haiti “Open for Business”: Sourcing Slave Labor for U.S.-Based Companies

spittin' freakin' angry that they can do this shit and people still believe thier lies.

I like Warren's politics, but I don't think she can win. Who are some other Democratic candidates who could defeat a Republican (e.g., Jeb Bush)?

Warren's won several - beat the most popular politician in Mass, started up the CFPB, prevented Larry Summers from having another turn at us, etc.

Kill me now.

and I won't.

How about her vote for that unprovoked war against Iraq? That certainly was reckless, foolish, and tragic.