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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:34 PM Apr 2014

UPDATED: Harry Reid Calls Bundy Supporters 'Domestic Terrorists'

Source: TPM

CAITLIN MACNEAL – APRIL 17, 2014, 3:55 PM EDT

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) on Thursday called Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his supporters "domestic terrorists" at an event sponsored by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, according to reporter Jon Ralston.

Jon Ralston @RalstonReports
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.@SenatorReid says Bundy "does not recognize the United States." Calls armed folks who backed him " domestic terrorists." Wow.

3:23 PM - 17 Apr 2014


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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/reid-bundy-domestic-terrorists



Reid calls rancher’s backers ‘domestic terrorists’

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is calling armed backers of a Nevada rancher “domestic terrorists” for using guns in a grazing rights battle with the federal Bureau of Land Management.

The Democrat was speaking at an event hosted by the Las Vegas Review-Journal (http://bit.ly/QrWVIj ) Thursday when he referred to Saturday’s armed confrontation between BLM agents and self-described militia members supporting Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy.

No shots were fired.

After the confrontation, the BLM released almost 400 of Bundy’s cattle that had been rounded up. The BLM says its action was spurred by Bundy’s failure to pay more than $1 million in grazing fees on federal land. Bundy says he doesn’t recognize federal authority on the land his family has used since the 1870s.

Reid says a federal task force is being formed to resolve the dispute.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/04/17/reid_calls_ranchers_backers_domestic_terrorists/
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UPDATED: Harry Reid Calls Bundy Supporters 'Domestic Terrorists' (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
Exactly Whaty They Are, Sir --- And They Should Be Treated Accordingly The Magistrate Apr 2014 #1
So....drones? Is that what you're thinking? Pterodactyl Apr 2014 #21
As The Man Said, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #22
I gave up ''supposed to be'' and ''shoulda's'' for Lent. :-| n/t DeSwiss Apr 2014 #28
About fucking time. When will homeland security get involved? Autumn Apr 2014 #2
Terrorists carry christx30 Apr 2014 #3
Those extremist RW militias *are* domestic terrorists... Violet_Crumble Apr 2014 #27
When I said in an earlier thread that cosmicone Apr 2014 #4
LOL, Bundy and his ilk are the same as the pro-Russians in Ukraine. joshcryer Apr 2014 #13
Why bother? The administration can just go to a secret court and get permission to drone them all. hughee99 Apr 2014 #33
Way overdue Harry now use your power as Majority Leader to eradicate them Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #5
Yep they are. thanks Harry. Thank you, Don Cha Apr 2014 #6
next, of course, they'll be talking about how divisive Harry Reid is! Vietnameravet Apr 2014 #7
That label is way overdue. Paladin Apr 2014 #8
Supporters of Planned Parenthood have known for decades that we have domestic terrorists.... Hekate Apr 2014 #9
I hope they tax Al Bundy for this whole show Politicalboi Apr 2014 #10
BLM said Bundy would have to pay roundup expenses that were going to cost around $1 million. Lasher Apr 2014 #23
The militia movement is indeed such. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #11
Yes they are and fake news is right there with them Iliyah Apr 2014 #12
No truer words were ever spoken. kestrel91316 Apr 2014 #14
Good, Now can we round them up and give them the "Enhanced interrogation" that they love so much? W T F Apr 2014 #15
Exactly what they are- KrazyinKS Apr 2014 #16
Not scared at all. A selfish, self-promoting, blood-sucking sob. toby jo Apr 2014 #17
I did hope I wasn't babbling- KrazyinKS Apr 2014 #34
I live in Vegas and saw that a while ago on local TV.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #18
Well, isn't that what they are? calimary Apr 2014 #19
Yes, I agree that Armadotrasgo Apr 2014 #20
Seems to me that conflating the two is an accurate example of bias. LanternWaste Apr 2014 #29
Oooh, did he shake his head and wag his finger too? chuckrocks Apr 2014 #24
apparently Glenn Beck and Harry Reid are on the same page here? alp227 Apr 2014 #25
Thanks, Senator Warpy Apr 2014 #26
Check out the Hill's story the comments are...enlightening DiverDave Apr 2014 #30
Next time they bunch up like that, drone-bomb them with knockout gas. Jester Messiah Apr 2014 #31
The Gas of Peace should do the trick: kentauros Apr 2014 #32

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
1. Exactly Whaty They Are, Sir --- And They Should Be Treated Accordingly
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:35 PM
Apr 2014

These people should be swept up nets....

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
22. As The Man Said, Sir
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 10:37 PM
Apr 2014

"Revolution is not a tea-party."

When you take up arms against a government, which these people were doing, there are supposed to be consequences....

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
27. Those extremist RW militias *are* domestic terrorists...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:14 AM
Apr 2014

Terrorism has little to do with what weapon the terrorist uses, or whether they have a mask or not. It's about threatened and actual violence by a non-state actor aimed at a state. Not recognising the state and doing what these folk are doing definitely falls into the category of domestic terrorism...

edited to add: I just realised yr the same person who a week or so ago said you kind of support Bundy and those extremist RW militias..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4815319

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. When I said in an earlier thread that
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:44 PM
Apr 2014

we should have sent helicopter gunships and tanks to crush these teabagger-NRA types, a bunch of people flamed me. Now Harry Reid is calling them terrorists but will they be dealt like terrorists and thrown in Guantánamo?

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
13. LOL, Bundy and his ilk are the same as the pro-Russians in Ukraine.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:53 PM
Apr 2014

Walking around armed to the teeth, asserting power because they know no one wants to escalate.

Lets just hope these kinds of thugs aren't on the rise thanks to these methods succeeding.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. Why bother? The administration can just go to a secret court and get permission to drone them all.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:34 AM
Apr 2014
 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
5. Way overdue Harry now use your power as Majority Leader to eradicate them
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:47 PM
Apr 2014

just like any other terrorist.

Let’s see if our government goes after white terrorists with the same zeal they do going after brown and black ones.


Paladin

(28,277 posts)
8. That label is way overdue.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:18 PM
Apr 2014

Terrorists is precisely what they are, and they ought to be treated accordingly.

Hekate

(90,860 posts)
9. Supporters of Planned Parenthood have known for decades that we have domestic terrorists....
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:21 PM
Apr 2014

Sometimes they call themselves one thing, sometimes another. Sometimes they espouse different things, like the murderous elderly bastard in Kansas who thought he was murdering Jews but murdered three other innocents instead. But they have certain things in common and they are connected.

Let me repeat: They are connected. If nothing else, the Internet and social media make that a foregone conclusion by now.

Rachel Maddow was all over this issue last night. It is about @#$%! time that someone like Harry Reid said it out loud.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
10. I hope they tax Al Bundy for this whole show
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:28 PM
Apr 2014

It costs us taxpayers money for the BLM to round up his cattle and then let them go. And then for the security, and cops who had to keep an eye on the home grown terrorist.

I know his name is not Al. But he's about as smart as Al.

Lasher

(27,641 posts)
23. BLM said Bundy would have to pay roundup expenses that were going to cost around $1 million.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:42 AM
Apr 2014

But that operation was cut short, so I guess that amount would be somewhere between $0 and $1 million that he might or might not be expected to pay.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
11. The militia movement is indeed such.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 07:31 PM
Apr 2014

These yellow bastards were going to let women and children be used as human shield.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
16. Exactly what they are-
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:07 PM
Apr 2014

My husband keeps looking for a reason for this guys behavior. He is crazy, no other reason. He grazes his cattle on Federal land and refuses to pay the fees, I have no sympathy for him. When you are self-employed, and your business is having trouble, for various reasons, much of which in farming and ranching is because of climate change. That is not the fed's fault, it is because the world is changing, your business climate is changing, the climate is changing. Water is scarce, especially in Nevada and pointing a gun at someone doesn't change that. I hope I don't sound like I am babbling. But his world is changing and that is not the fault of the Fed's. He is just scared shitless, him times 2,000 could make this a scary scenario.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
17. Not scared at all. A selfish, self-promoting, blood-sucking sob.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:19 PM
Apr 2014

A little boy who won't grow up and play straight with the big boys because it's hard to do. It's just not fun to do corny things like pay your bills; fun is watching your money grow.

I'm glad you have no sympathy for him at any rate.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
34. I did hope I wasn't babbling-
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 07:46 PM
Apr 2014

I want to make it clear, I have no sympathy for this guy. He should be paying his bills, including grazing fees. I just sometimes think these guys are afraid because their world is changing - that includes climate change. So they respond with a gun and blame everything in the federal government. I actually hate guys like that. You need to drive through western Kansas and see the lush fields of corn. This is semi-arid country and corn is a high water crop. They grow it with lots of irrigation. That type of farming is NOT SUSTAINABLE-okay. They are in lala land. They think global warming is not real-they come up to me and say I don't believe in global warming. I tell them it is not a religion-it is based on science. When their livelihood becomes doomed-they are going to become very afraid, and arm themselves even more. I think sometimes they could become dangerous at that point. Anyway-we are on the same page, I don't like them and you don't like them. I just see them up close.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. I live in Vegas and saw that a while ago on local TV....
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:22 PM
Apr 2014

The local media is telling the truth about the situation. That he is a right wing nut that has a LONG history of causing trouble.

In addition, the idiots showing up are being depicted as crazy extremists who want to think they can kill the gubmint.

Newsflash. Shoot one of these cops and he will get a funeral with a flag draped coffin.

You get shot and you will NOT go down in history as a martyr for the cause like Horst Wessel. You will be associated with the likes of Charley Manson.

 

Armadotrasgo

(28 posts)
20. Yes, I agree that
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:49 PM
Apr 2014

Whenever citizens dare to stand up and oppose the government, whether on Wall Street or in the desert, it is right to label them terrorists.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. Seems to me that conflating the two is an accurate example of bias.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
Apr 2014

What if those same citizens do not recognize a legitimate government, and refuse to pay the same fees and taxes as everyone else, aim weapons at law enforcement, and choose to place children in front of them as shields?

Did any of that happen during the Wall Street protests? Seems to me that conflating the two (regardless of whether its disingenuous or not) is an accurate example of bias (at best).



(However, I do realize that many people will melodramatically sing any false equivalency that may be imagined to better validate a striking level or irrational thought...)

chuckrocks

(290 posts)
24. Oooh, did he shake his head and wag his finger too?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:25 AM
Apr 2014

You can always tell when he's snuggled between elections.

alp227

(32,065 posts)
25. apparently Glenn Beck and Harry Reid are on the same page here?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:44 AM
Apr 2014

Glenn Beck has been dismissive of what he calls the right-wing Occupy Wall Street crowd for supporting Cliven Bundy. But Harry Reid took it to a whole 'nother level.

Harry Reid may have compromised a bit too much in the Senate...BUT he can verbally slap the crazy right.

DiverDave

(4,887 posts)
30. Check out the Hill's story the comments are...enlightening
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:06 PM
Apr 2014

I played as long as I could, but it gets old after a while

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
31. Next time they bunch up like that, drone-bomb them with knockout gas.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

Or some other incapacitating agent. Then collect them, incarcerate them, and prosecute them with taking up arms against the United States.

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