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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:54 PM Apr 2014

Christian broadcaster wins health care injunction

Source: Associated Press

Christian broadcaster wins health care injunction
By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, April 17, 8:22 PM

DENVER — Christian radio broadcaster James Dobson has won a temporary injunction preventing the federal government from requiring his ministry to include the morning-after pill and other emergency contraception in its health insurance.

A federal judge in Denver issued the injunction Thursday.

Dobson sued in December, saying the Affordable Care Act mandate to provide the contraception violates the religious beliefs of his Colorado Springs-based ministry, called Family Talk.

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering similar challenges from Hobby Lobby and other employers.

Dobson is founder and president of Family Talk, which has a nationally syndicated radio show, newsletter and website. The lawsuit says the ministry has 28 full-time employees.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/christian-broadcaster-wins-health-care-injunction/2014/04/17/dcc5e296-c697-11e3-b708-471bae3cb10c_story.html



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Christian broadcaster wins health care injunction (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2014 OP
I do not like this man. TNNurse Apr 2014 #1
Jesus wept... NYtoBush-Drop Dead Apr 2014 #5
Another pious hypocrite hobbit709 Apr 2014 #2
28 full-time employees Politicalboi Apr 2014 #3
Dobson. The face of evil. nt SunSeeker Apr 2014 #4
28 employees, probably all religious nuts like Ilsa Apr 2014 #6
These freaks can go ahead and do this shit...BUT SoapBox Apr 2014 #7
What a fucking sociopath. Initech Apr 2014 #8
Another Christian Dominionist, yes? blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #9
If they won't include coverage than the premiums should be higher. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #10
Why would their health care expenses be higher? former9thward Apr 2014 #12
Really? LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #15
What? former9thward Apr 2014 #16
Contraception is cheaper than going through pregnancy. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #18
I guess you don't get it. former9thward Apr 2014 #20
Conception is free undeterred Apr 2014 #21
Corrected the typo. former9thward Apr 2014 #22
You don't get it. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #23
Would including bandages lower the cost? former9thward Apr 2014 #24
I've always thought you were trolling LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #25
Oh, the troll charge... former9thward Apr 2014 #26
Dobson used to be insistent that FoF LibertyLover Apr 2014 #11
If he has a non-profit ministry (yeah...who are we kidding...he lives like a king) passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #13
He has under 50 employees Ruby the Liberal Apr 2014 #14
It is not for precedent. former9thward Apr 2014 #17
perhap he had a need to appear ---ahhhh bigger-- than he really is dembotoz Apr 2014 #19

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
1. I do not like this man.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 10:14 PM
Apr 2014

I do not believe he really loves others like a Christian should. I believe he is very judgmental and needs to learn some humility and compassion.

But that is just my opinion.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
6. 28 employees, probably all religious nuts like
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:18 PM
Apr 2014

Dobson who won't use the contraception coverage. HL has hundreds, even thousands of employees, many of who cannot be presumed to believe the way their employer's owners believe. I don't see them as the same.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. These freaks can go ahead and do this shit...BUT
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:45 PM
Apr 2014

They are banned from receiving 1 penny of benefit, including any emergency medical services. They must pay in full.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
10. If they won't include coverage than the premiums should be higher.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:45 PM
Apr 2014

As the health care expenses will be higher.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
16. What?
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:07 AM
Apr 2014

Do you really think it is a mission impossible to get contraception without health insurance? I have never used health insurance to get contraception for either myself or my partners and it is very inexpensive.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
18. Contraception is cheaper than going through pregnancy.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:48 PM
Apr 2014

If they are not going to offer contraception or its use for other purposes and unintended pregnancies occur than the costs of health care goes up.

It is more cost expedient to keep pregnancies down. Family planning means planned pregnancies vs unplanned.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/2924897.html

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
20. I guess you don't get it.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 03:54 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Sat Apr 19, 2014, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Contraception is very cheap. Go and buy some if you want it. Would you like bandages covered also? Health insurance used to be very cheap in the 60s because it covered things that you have insurance for -- major events that you can't afford. Now it costs a fortune because everything is covered. Is replacing a light bulb covered in your home owners insurance? If your car battery goes out does your car insurance cover it? Same difference.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
25. I've always thought you were trolling
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 07:07 PM
Apr 2014
http://business.time.com/2012/02/14/why-free-birth-control-will-not-hike-the-cost-of-your-insurance/

The truth is that both insurers and employers who self-insure save money in the long run by covering contraception. So much money is saved that it makes financial sense to waive co-pays and deductibles. A 2000 study by the National Business Group on Health estimates that not providing contraceptive coverage in employee health plans winds up costing employers 15% to 17% more than providing such coverage.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
26. Oh, the troll charge...
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 07:28 PM
Apr 2014

Aren't you supposed to say "right wing talking points" or "you get your news from faux" first? I guess you go right for the end game...

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
11. Dobson used to be insistent that FoF
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:56 PM
Apr 2014

was not a ministry, but rather a Christian organization because he wasn't a minister. He makes me sick.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
13. If he has a non-profit ministry (yeah...who are we kidding...he lives like a king)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:41 PM
Apr 2014

whether through TV, Radio, or whatever...he probably qualifies as a church and can bypass the requirements on religious grounds. This is not the same as Hobby Lobby, a for-profit business.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
14. He has under 50 employees
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:49 PM
Apr 2014

Maybe I missed something, but I didn't think private employers had to follow ACA requirements if they were under 50 (?) employees.

Why would he need to go to court? Just to get precedent on the books?

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
17. It is not for precedent.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:10 AM
Apr 2014

I don't know why he is in court but courts do not accept cases just to establish a precedent. There has to be some actionable item that the court can rule on.

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