And they should permanently bar his relatives and heirs from owning property or engaging in commerce.

I assume that he must have already been neutered.

As I always say, school administrators are biologically inferior and stupid human beings.

I can't disagree with this. Lesson is there are times to be class clown and other times not.

It seems an oxymoron, to me.

All the story says he was told beforehand is "it would be considered inappropriate". Is being 'inappropriate' (and not bothering the guest, at all) something that deserves official punishment, whatever 'in-school suspension' is?

is a real thing. You go to school, but you are put into a room away from your class probably close to the principal's office. You do school work. It's not bad. I did it a bunch when I was a kid.

punish the student and at the same time for the school not to lose state money for the days the student was 'suspended'.

It was a budget related issue, and I don't think that it is still practiced.

Jackasses.

And all the pre-selected students for questions and pre-selected questions as well...fake and phony.

I say bravo to this man!

administrators need to lighten up. I'd hate to find out what happens in that school when a kid really does something wrong.

they crack down on petty stuff way out of proportion to the seriousness of it, and they cover up any serious wrongdoing.

The kid was not suspended so much for asking Miss America to the prom as he was for pulling the stunt after he had been warned before hand by the school's administration that doing so would be considered inappropriate behavior and he would be punished. The school knew he had planned to do it and felt that his doing so would distract from her presentation. The kid knew the deal and chose to go through with his plan. You dance, you have to pay the fiddler. Big deal, 3 days of suspension. It was his choice.

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about nothing. The kid was a show off and Miss America apparently thought the gesture was harmless. The admins. shouldn't have gotten their panties in a wad in the first place. What did they think Miss America was going to do? Walk out in a huff? Be scarred for life?

The administration was wrong to make a stink about it. Once the kid went ahead with it -admittedly because he was feeling peer pressure - they felt they had no choice but to dole out some bs "punishment."

And were basically told what to ask of Miss America by the school admin, I say FUCK YES these young men and women SHOULD "act out" over such authoritarian actions.

Good gawd. Even if he did, I'm sure Miss America would smile, say something gracious, and Patrick would get the hint (I hope).

Talk about extreme overreaction.

eta: Ok he actually did it. No harm no foul.

He's obviously clever and going places.

not to do it and I guess they have to maintain some authority if he doesn't listen to them ... however, what he did was very harmless and Miss Davuluri seemed to view it as a sweet gesture.

He knew he would get in trouble. He accepted the punishment as being worth the action.

Proud, self-aware people always want to stand up to the irrational proscriptions of petty authorities. Like moths to the flame.

Fine, in all those endless years of school you always felt yourself superior to the petty authorities, with whom you conformed utterly because you had Better Things to go forward to, unlike the rebels who couldn't rise above that level of being annoyed every day. Very inspirational, totally relevant, blah blah blah.

Someone suspend the suspenders! They are fools.

Second time he high jacked an all school assembly to show off. Part of an education is learning it is not "all about me."

and not just the headline. This kid is future frat boy material, and in a couple years will be the subject of hatred by the same people who are defending his actions...

He was basically a good kid, but he always thought that he knew better than anyone else. He's now in his late 20s and has learned some hard life lessons. He's now much humbler and just got a great job as a regional manager for a large rental car company.

Kids need to know that the world doesn't revolve around them.

Dude has to learn no means no.

The kid was a show off and would use school events where there was a celebrity guest to pull stunts to attract attention to himself. Sooner or later the kid needs to learn that he can't always be the center of attention. Better that he learns it now then when he has to work for a living and loses his job because he thinks he can show off whenever the fancy strikes him.

The very premise of your argument is faulty, some people can be the center of attention whenever the fancy strikes them, and they are a shit ton more successful then most of the drones our education system churns out. Lucky for the kid the national news story covering this will far over shadow this suspension teaching him the real moral of the story. Always go for it and never compromise.

that kids need to learn some manners and respect their betters. From that we can draw a clear enough picture of you that knowing you is neither necessary nor desirable.

What if this were a political issue and he were asking (a not even very) challenging question? I remember fighting the long hair "wars" in middle and high school and was routinely sent to the vice principal's office, simply for having the "disruption" and gall to not cutting my hair short.

This was hardly even a prank, just a silly gesture.

Now, let's try it even further, what if it were a young woman in school and some heart throb actor? Would she deserve "in school suspension"?

What if it were a student in a wheelchair?

What if...

This smacks of stupid diversion, almost as if it were made up.

Probably not, though. School administrators are also "pressured" into silly actions. The problem is, they allowed themselves to be painted into a corner and have punished the student while the student did not punish (or hurt) anyone.

There are stories every year about it, usually about the gracious reply of the chosen date.

This is friggin' ridiculous.

-- Mal

Hey, it's high school. Okay, the admin told him not to do it, so they have to come down on him. Doesn't make it any less ridiculous.

-- Mal

Sometime, high schoolers need to be expected to behave like they should in polite society. The real world is not as "anything goes" as way too many people want it to be. It's bad enough how employers are complaining about young workers being unemployable.

Yes this was anything goes, he took his pants off and waved his penis at her............For fuck's sake, a teenage boy acted like a teenage boy......I am surprised the world did not end........ Petty bureaucrats acting like petty bureaucrats, I see little has changed in 20+ years when it comes to those inferior minds that unfortunately are in charge of our children.

The student was impolite with his asking-her-out-to-prom stunt because it made the show ALL ABOUT HIM and not the speaker. Simple as that. What's wrong with schools promoting manners and civility? (I say this with the opinion the school went over-the-top in suspending the student.)

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And it appeared that the school administration wasn't cool with his plan. Word got to the administration, and a member of the staff pulled Patrick into his office right before the assembly. He told Patrick the administration had heard rumors about what he was planning and that if he chose to go through with it, it would be considered inappropriate.

"At that point in time, it was 10 minutes before the presentation, and I was pretty much set to do it," he said. "I was a little pressured. Everybody expected me to do it."

And he said, "I'm the kind of person who, if someone says I won't do something, I'll prove people wrong. I will."

The school asked him not to do it and he did it anyway. He's lucky that he is allowed to attend the prom. In the larger scheme of things, this is just kid's stuff, but when he goes out in the real world he better learn some discipline fast. If he did this at a job, he would have been fired.

Beauty contests are all about meaningless publicity to get people to look at you, and so are the appearances afterwards. Why should it be OK for the school to indulge in meaningless gestures to get their name known, but not a pupil?

according to the AP. That's not a stunt, given the right wing "GAH DERP A DARKIE WON MISS AMERICA" backlash Davuluri faced after winning the Miss America title.

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expulsion.

Appropriate punishment, imo, given that he was told by administrators not to do it and he blew them off and did it anyway. Kid needs to learn some manners.

And I used to be a high school teacher. I've seen it all. One of my kids once told me I should get a job a Hooters. I did write him up but I don't think he got any punishment but a stern warning. And the kid eventually apologized to me and, as far as I could tell, actually meant it. That's the best possible outcome... recognizing you did something messed up, apologizing, and not doing it again.

But I am not really sure this particular kid messed up or did anything wrong. If it was rude, it was only rude by the most puritanical standards. I don't think what this kid did was even 5% as rude as the Hooters comment. Not really worthy of any punishment at all.

Catholic schools, i had money stolen from my purse, dogshit placed on my desk, and a kid tell me to my face that I sucked for "giving" him a well-earned D.

None of those kids was suspended. As I recall they were all given a talking to and sent on their way by the principal.

Given what I've seen and been subjected to, I'd say the administrators in this case went overboard in order to emphasize their authority. The punishment should always fit the "crime." In this case it didn't.

In-school suspensions are not exactly 'hard punishment'. It's been a while since I was in high school, but isn't it essentially going to a quiet room where you still have to do your schoolwork, but with the added bonus of not having to listen to a teacher drone away about something you probably already know if you've done any sort of prep for class at all? Get your work done early, and you can sit there and read. Not even a real 'punishment' as far as I was concerned, more like a bonus study hall.

Silly prank, silly punishment. The kid isn't going to be scarred by having 'in school suspension', and nobody outside of the high school would ever even have known he'd had it if the story hadn't gone viral. It's not exactly going to 'haunt him for life'.

Always respect and fear authority, and never ever do something you suspect might annoy or bother an authority figure.

all rules -- no matter how inane.

upside down and backwards. I am just agog that they would find this so inappropriate that they would punish him for it.

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and got a minor punishment. All is well.

That is the ending to this I would like to see.

that there are many an uptight toe the line bunch on this site.

cripes folks, have we all just fallen so far down the memory hole that this kids bravado now falls into the bizarre category of "unacceptable behavior"?

damn, y'all need to get over yourselves, take a step back and have a good laugh.

No one was harmed, Miss America got a kick out of it and the kid has a great story.

what honestly does the school expect? little robots to regurgitate their prearranged questions or students who have their own sense of self and can think for themselves? I know! scandalous!

I shake my head at the faux sense of outrage. what have we become and just what are we encouraging? Conform now!

sigh.

Students should "their own sense of self and...think for themselves," but narcissistic stunts like Patrick's do NOT fit that criteria. If Patrick truly had a sense of critical thinking, he would realize his antics would not be tolerated in the working world.

I think a reasonable educational environment would have such a balance. In such a balance, the student simply would have been reprimanded by an admin who would articulate why such behavior is inappropriate for an educational event, rather than knee-jerk suspend.

they floor is yours.

Cheers!

And do you not have expectations that high schoolers should learn how to behave in polite society?

a slap on the wrist....no big deal.

He knew he would probably get suspended, it's in-school suspension so it's really just like having study hall all day, nobody got hurt, he had his fun, so who cares.

Oh, I was arguing with people online about this high school kid who asked some hot beauty star out to prom when it was the answer and question session. You wouldn't believe how people were defending the school administration and th....


Hold on, so honey-


What did you DO today

Vice President George H.W. Bush is coming to the high school. The main character, Lindsay, is selected to ask him a pre-planned question. Her question, which is tough (she admits to being a Democrat), is rejected and she's told to come up with a fluff question to the ask the Vice President. During the assembly, she stands up and asks him, pointedly, "Mr. Vice President, why did your staff reject my question? Are you afraid of an open discourse with the students?"

More power to him. I hate screening questions and forcing kids to say what the school wants them to say.