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alp227

(32,036 posts)
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:01 PM Apr 2014

Gang defendant shot at new Salt Lake City federal courthouse

Source: Salt Lake Tribune

A defendant was shot inside Salt Lake City’s new federal courthouse Monday morning during the first day of trial for an alleged Tongan Crip gang member, officials said.

According to Mark Dressen, FBI assistant special agent in charge, the defendant charged the witness stand with a pen or pencil, prompting a U.S. marshal to shoot the man multiple times in the chest.

The defendant’s condition was not immediately known, but he was breathing when he was carried out of the courthouse on a stretcher, Dressen said.

Dressen said the witness was not injured.

Read more: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57844841-78/angilau-defendant-witness-gang.html.csp

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Archae

(46,337 posts)
4. Ever see those video shows on MSNBC, usually on the weekend?
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:35 PM
Apr 2014

"Caught On Tape: Chaos In The Courtroom"

Someone in the courtroom goes nuts, charges at the prosecutor or judge, even totally unarmed they are very frightening.

So it's not surprising the marshal shot the guy who had a pen and was willing to stab anyone with it.

Response to Archae (Reply #4)

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
13. I agree with you
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:12 AM
Apr 2014

I understand the need to apply lethal force at times. But this seems like a situation where a taser would have been more appropriate.

Yep, I know a pencil can be as deadly as a knife. But a taser can stop most people as effectively as a bullet can. And if the taser fails, then go to the gun. I guess what I'm saying is this: I wish cops would stop seeing a gun as the first option.

Oh, and one more thing. Part of the blame for this mess goes to progressives. Because progressive lawyers pretty much forced cops to quit using the baton. Sure, many cops misused the baton. But a baton would have been the go-to weapon here. I'll bet the marshal didn't even have one.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
6. Well, he was certainly guilty of stealing the pen
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 05:39 PM
Apr 2014

and how his estate will be charged for the toxic clean up of 8 lead bullets.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. Pen or pencil can be a lethal weapon in the arms of a right person.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:32 AM
Apr 2014

Just do a google search and you will see.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
15. I wonder who qualifies as the "right person"
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:37 AM
Apr 2014

and how your logic might be applied by armed teachers in our schools.

Where the HELL has common sense disappeared to?

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