At a rare field hearing, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson calls Miami Beach ground zero for sea level rise
Source: Miami Herald
Miami Beach became ground zero for climate change Tuesday when U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson convened a rare field hearing to draw national attention to the dangers posed by rising seas.
For those who deny sea level rise and climate change, here is the proof, Nelson said halfway through the two-hour hearing at Miami Beach City Hall, and one of several times he pointedly called out colleagues in Congress who deny that climate change is occurring.
A half dozen witnesses, including a NASA scientist, a mayor and a county commissioner, forecast a dire future with a three-foot rise in seas by the beginning of the next century. At that rate, large swaths of Floridas coast would be inundated, with billions of dollars in damage, even as climate change fuels more severe hurricanes. But the panel also offered hope, saying theres still plenty of time to plan.
Its a slow, steady, persistent creep. But the fact that its slow means theres time, said Fred Bloetscher, an associate civil engineering professor at Florida Atlantic University who testified about potential fixes for South Florida.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/22/4074378/at-a-rare-field-hearing-us-sen.html
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)And wouldn't it be funny if the sea swallowed him up while he was broadcasting from his home studio, while denying global climate change?
greiner3
(5,214 posts)So if the asshat is still alive in 86 years, then I do hope his home is inundated.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)plenty of them in Fla.
With Ru$h gone, one less.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)interesting that they are talking about the damage in terms of money, not loss of life.
Vogon_Glory
(9,127 posts)With utmost respect, the planet will likely survive whatever havoc we humans will wreak on the planets numerous ecosystems. What is at stake, and what right-wing climate denialists and end-time religious nuts choose to ignore, is that that we environmentalist-minded progressives want to keep this planet as a habitable, congenial garden-spot for humanity.
I doubt we humans could restore the Earth to a Garden of Eden. Waterworld is unlikely. But I sure as Sam Hill don't want my posterity to live in a "Cursed Earth" like the sort of places existing outside Judge Dredd's megacities.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...and this whole 'by the end of this century' stuff just makes me laugh...this shit is going to get REAL much, much quicker than anyone will say out loud...
Vogon_Glory
(9,127 posts)I disagree that the dollars-and-cents costs of man-made climate change and sea-level rise ought to be discounted. I think it ought to be emphasized.
You see, it's not that I'm unaware of at least some of the human costs of sea level rise and climate change. It's that I don't think that most right-wing voters have bothered to think about the catastrophic costs of climate change, sea-level rise, and how it would affect THEM directly.
Why do I think the dollars-and-cents aspect should be emphasized? Because the Republican Party, its Tea Party faction, and the special interests who back denialist views need to have their credibility smashed to tiny, unusable bits.
The Republican Party has gotten away with their policies for years because they were able to sell a lot of voters that they were the realists, they were the adults, they were the responsible ones who looked at the world as it was and dealt with it, unlike those moonpie, hippie-dippy, clueless "libruls" and their ivory-tower thinking.
We progressives know better [That's a subject for another thread], but all too many Republican voters and all too many independent voters still buy into that BS. We progressives (as well as not-so-progressives) need to hammer in the points that it is right-wing/Republican thinking that is off in la-la land, that Republican policies are based on fantasies and wishes & happy dust-fueled assumptions, and that right-wing/Republican policies are having catastrophic consequences, not just to the environment, not just to the insurers and the insured, but to folks in general.
Remember, the first reactions to climate change legislation was their hostility to carbon taxes. Well, guess what? The costs of doing nothing are already higher than carbon taxes paid at the pump, mass transit subsidies, and moving away from a fossil fuel future.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)There is tremendous momentum in the climate system, and we have already activated many of the "tipping points" that climate scientists warn about. The early snow melts in the far north and loss of sea ice in the arctic mean the land and sea will absorb more sunlight. The melting ice in Greenland leads to water dripping down through the ice and lubricating the bottom of the glaciers, accelerating the loss of the Greenland ice sheet. The carbon dioxide already released will persist in the atmosphere for a long time. The methane released from melting permafrost in Canada and Siberia will also last a long time. If we stopped burning all fossil fuels this minute, the globe will still continue to warm for a long time.
The momentum in the political system also counts. Many elected officials and many billionaire powerbrokers still deny global warming, though some of them may just be posturing in order to delay when the public will demand to hold them accountable. By the time we decide to do anything, plus the time it takes to implement anything, we will have lost the opportunity to have any significant effect, unless we resort to the desperate measures of deliberate geo-engineering and their unknown unintended consequences.
The IPCC predictions routinely fall short of actual events. They have to keep revising upward how dire the situation will be.
We will lose the Greenland ice sheet. We can't save it now. On a longer timeframe (100 - 200 years), we will lose some and perhaps all of the Antarctic ice sheet.
bleedinglib
(212 posts)Well, there's time, but we'll wait until the last minute because of the deniers???
Better buy that beach property in the mountains today!!
freebrew
(1,917 posts)or build dykes, stilts, etc. Maybe he meant that for the rich, they could afford to move.
Screw the poor, eh?
The Stranger
(11,297 posts)We tried when there was still time.
But it's over now.
It's not a question of whether the train is leaving, but how far it will go and what it's going to look like when we get there.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Loves the US. Is a patriot.
There he goes carrying the banner for the People. For the poor People. The rich can easily move. The poor will be huddling masses. He is thinking ahead and is a real leader. Who we should follow.
Old saying: Lead follow or get the hell out of the way. Nelson is leading.
What will you do?