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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 09:27 PM Apr 2014

UN Marks Chernobyl Anniversary With Call To Avoid Nuclear Disasters

Source: Prensa Latina



"This is an opportunity to pay tribute to the emergency workers who responded, remember the more than 330,000 people who were evacuated from contaminated regions, and stand in solidarity with the millions who still live in the affected areas in Belarus, the Russian Federation and Ukraine," said a statement issued by the spokesperson for the Secretary-General.

The explosion that occurred at Chernobyl on 26 April, 1986 marked the worst nuclear power plant accident in history. The United Nations has played an important role in addressing the challenges faced by affected communities, and remains committed to the UN Action Plan on Chernobyl until 2016.

The Plan contains a declaration of principles embraced by all UN agencies involved in recovery efforts and emphasizes social and economic development and the promotion of healthy lifestyles and community self-reliance.

"Those affected still require targeted yet comprehensive support in creating new livelihoods and restoring self-reliance and self-sufficiency. The Secretary-General applauds the determination of people in affected territories to bring life in the region back to normal," said the statement.

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Read more: http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2618441&Itemid=1

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UN Marks Chernobyl Anniversary With Call To Avoid Nuclear Disasters (Original Post) bananas Apr 2014 OP
How come we never have memorials to the 7 million people who die each year from air pollution? NNadir Apr 2014 #1
We do. Nearly every time a cash register bell rings...that's what they died to make possible. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2014 #2
Trivial mortality, huh? levp Apr 2014 #3
In the spirit of the OP madokie Apr 2014 #7
You had a thread locked just a few hours ago for being state propaganda. Did you not learn? Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #4
Oh dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #5
They didn't have to fabricate it this time, Che. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #6

NNadir

(33,529 posts)
1. How come we never have memorials to the 7 million people who die each year from air pollution?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 10:27 PM
Apr 2014

Oh, I know, they don't count, because they die consistently and constantly.

The Lancet paper that describes these deaths doesn't even record nuclear deaths at all, because on scale they're trivial.

Lancet 2012.380.2224–60

One may refer to Table 3 in the paper to see if "nuclear accidents" are comparable to exposure to cadmium, which killed 555 people in 2010 alone. Well, one can't actually. "Nuclear accidents" don't appear on the list of major causes of mortality between 1990-2010, since, um, they're trivial.

By contrast, particulate air pollution killed 3,223,540 people in 2010; this may account for the paper published by Jim Hansen last year, showing that nuclear energy saved more than 1.8 million lives over its operating history, and might have saved lots more, were it not for the fear and ignorance of anti-nukes.

Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895: Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power

One therefore wonders which killed more people, Chernobyl or the air pollution spewed out to run servers so people who know nothing about science, nothing about epidemiology could spread scare stories about Chernobyl being the end of the world.

I note that the Lancet paper reports that 119,762 people died in 2010, alone, as a result of vitamin A deficiencies. Nearly all of these deaths would have been prevented if golden rice - a GMO crop - had been allowed to be introduced in impoverished nations, something that the same class of bourgeois brats who oppose nuclear energy prevented from happening.

Some people think this was a crime, and I tend to agree: Crimes against humanity

This is related to the case with the "Chernobyl is the worst thing that ever happened" meme, in the sense that the same set of people who hate the world's largest form of climate change gas free primary energy, nuclear energy, also despite genetic engineering.

Which killed more people between 1990 and 2010, Vitamin A deficiencies or radiation from Chernobyl and all of the world's other nuclear power plants? Particulates in air pollution or radiation from Chernobyl and all of the world's other nuclear power plants? Exposure to cadmium or or radiation from Chernobyl and all of the world's other nuclear power plants?

Both cases, the Vitamin A case, and the anti-nuke case are clear cut and irrefutable demonstrations of how ignorance kills.

Have a wonderful weekend.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
2. We do. Nearly every time a cash register bell rings...that's what they died to make possible. n/t
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:08 PM
Apr 2014

levp

(188 posts)
3. Trivial mortality, huh?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:11 PM
Apr 2014
""Nuclear accidents" don't appear on the list of major causes of mortality between 1990-2010, since, um, they're trivial."

Trivial for who? Not for me or my family.

Maybe what you presented is absolute truth, but: both my wife and I lived in Kiev in 1986, and her mother was one of the first nurses to arrive in Chernobyl in order to organize the field medical camp. Suffice it to say that most of her former patients are dead now, and she is on permanent disability. The stories she told... were depressing.
My friend, who was a surgeon in Kiev in the 90s, told me they had childhood and YA thyroid surgeries on almost like a conveyor belt-system due to a waiting line of patients from northern Ukraine and Belarus.
Personally, I egoistically thank my lucky stars that the prevailing winds on 4/26/86 and for several days thereafter were blowing north - not south to Kiev. So they were other children who contracted thyroid cancer and leukemia and not me (I also have a "growth" on the thyroid, albeit a small one).

So I'm biased, you see. I bet if you ask some people in Three Mile Island and Fukushima, you'll find similar stories (and similarly biased people) as well.

Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, fuck this shit. And if you want to conflate GMO with this, then fuck the GMO too.
It is not a very rational response, but the best one I can come up with while being mad as hell.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. In the spirit of the OP
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:25 AM
Apr 2014

Those deaths from air pollution are not only because of coal power plants is why. That's what you'd like us to believe but sorry most people know better. A large percentage of air pollution deaths are due to improper heating and cooking devices in third world countries. If you are really worried about those deaths get off your ass and do something about that. But no you will come here and any time there is a post reminding us of the dangers of a nuclear power plant you trot this canard out like it is comparing apples to apples when in fact it's as far from that as one can get for comparisons sake.

Now, go have a good day, I plan too

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
4. You had a thread locked just a few hours ago for being state propaganda. Did you not learn?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:14 PM
Apr 2014

Prensa Latina is the Cuban state news agency. You have an endless array of sources for this story and somehow you managed to pick the one source which is the propaganda wing of the Cuban state. How is that possible?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. Oh
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 04:07 AM
Apr 2014

Prensa Latina News Agency is the website of the Latin American News the head office in Havana, Cuba, and 28 bureaus worldwide.

It is not the propaganda wing of the Cuban state. IF there is such a thing its Granma http://www.granma.cu/idiomas/ingles/

How is that possible? maybe because they posted it first. Do you really believe they would fabricate a statement issued by the spokesperson for the Secretary-General.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
6. They didn't have to fabricate it this time, Che.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:16 AM
Apr 2014

Because they stole it from the UN website.

Viva la revolución, right?

This website should have respectable news sources. Not state propaganda. And the OP has demonstrated that they are okay with the latter.

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