Controversial Painter Depicts Obama With Burning Constitution
Source: CBS DC
Jon McNaughton, a controversial artist who often mixes religion and politics in his work, has released a new painting.
In One Nation Under Socialism, President Obama holds the U.S. Constitution as it burns.
While McNaughton previously depicted Obama stepping on the nations founding document, One Nation Under Socialism glowers directly as if challenging the viewer. His right hand is holding the Constitution and his left hand is pointing to the flames.
McNaughton tells CBSDC that the hands represents his recognition of what is happening (to the Constitution) as it goes up.
Read more: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/03/20/controversial-painter-depicts-obama-with-burning-constitution/
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Oh, wait, no it's not. He didn't do one.
The guy is an idiot and a bigot. And a shitty propagandist and artist:
It panders and preaches to the converted and tells them what they already believe, Saltz told CBSDC.
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When asked if removed a few years from Obamas presidency could the work be then viewed as art, Saltz said the work is inverted, with an American as an enemy Hitler, Tojo, Stalin, whoever.
Its much closer to the hate images produced in Germany pre-1939, in 1950s USA Red scare, in the USA around Jim Crow, etc.
trusty elf
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RitchieRich
(292 posts)was it Bush who signed NDAA "with reservations"?
just because the republicans are far, far, far worse, doesn't mean we should ignore facts.
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)You are right though we shouldnt ignore "all" of the facts but oddly some people still insist on cherry picking which facts to present in their arguments
Uncle Joe
(58,459 posts)that prohibits Socialism or socialist policies and thus such policies wouldn't necessarily be unConstitutional.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,245 posts)Perhaps it isn't just facts we should "ignore", if you catch my drift. Hope you find a home soon.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)...That I know I'm a shitty artist and a hyperbolic propagandist who screeches for nobody except myself and the basic decency I think all people deserve.
That guy? He's a chump working for The Man.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It was a real "piece of work."
This guy isn't an "artist," he's a copycat -- he doesn't even have the cleverness of the artful photoshopper.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Because it's really not wrong. The painting may as well have the hands of President Obama's four predecessors on it as well. He certainly didn't start the extra-constitutional activities but he's not going out of his way to end many of them either.
The imagery is wrong in the way it is intended and perceived by the right wing. "Socialism" certainly isn't the problem but that doesn't mean there is no problem.
Anyways, I won't be framing and hanging this mediocre piece anytime soon. I still have my "Hope" poster.
still_one
(92,454 posts)exemplifies that this "painting" only has to do with propagating hate against the first African American President.
The reason it "didn't" have the hands of the four predecessors is because the point was never about the Constitution. It was to equate "this" president as someone to hate. The disrespect that has been shown to President Obama by the news media, the republicans, and the acceptance of racism by the general populous only points to a bleak future for the country
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)But that doesn't mean that those of us with the ability to think past his idiotic message can not and should not do so.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)and not their petty ideology's and watch how quickly these problems are resolved. VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT!
Kennah
(14,339 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)I have an idea, McNothing . . . why don't you ASK an actual socialist if President Obama IS one? I'm sure she'll give you the answer, right after she's recovered from doubling over laughing.
Socialists institute a progressive tax system, which means taxing the wealthy, which Obama steadfastly refuses to do.
Socialists would institute Universal Health Care or some kind of single/multi-payer system, not throw the American people to the Humana/Wellpoint/Cigna crapcake we have now.
Socialists would institute a universal higher education program, not throw a six-digit anvil of debt on the backs of our young.
There's no real socialism in this country. Our "socialism" primarily consists of bailing out unbridled capitalism when it inevitably fails every seven years. Our social safety nets are fucking terrible compared to other industrialized nations. The only "SOSHULIZM" happening in this country is flowing UPward and to the Pentasewer, not "Trickling Down".
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)consider anyone to the left of Temujin one.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Don't know what the word means.
Or the words "Plutocracy" or "Fascist".
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)"Socialists institute a progressive tax system, which means taxing the wealthy, which Obama steadfastly refuses to do."
You did know that only the congress and senate can raise taxes and that no president can issue an order to do so nor has Obama said no to raising income taxes on those earning higher incomes?
So how exactly does your claim make any sense in light of those actual facts.................at all?
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,665 posts)I'm sure it was just an oversight, but the look on Obama's face is absolutely demonic, so it's a wash.
I've seen this nutjob's work before, and I'm glad to see he's been keeping himself busy since his painting that shows Reagan as a saintly figure among liberal sinners. He claims not to be partisan and goes out of his way to avoid darker pigments when illustrating his role models.
What an ass.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)I'll bet his parents collect their social security and medicare checks every month...
lunatica
(53,410 posts)What a waste of talent. Religious fervor in paintings where personages are depicted as godlike or satanic ruins everything about them. It's really kind of sickening isn't it?
RitchieRich
(292 posts)I'm torn by his wasted talent. He's creating bs political cartoons fit for Rush. like if Michelangelo carved marble toilets.
I don't believe there is any point in pretending he isn't talented. While agreeing completely with the critic, I wonder about someone's general sincerity if they say his technique is poor. Maybe its just a sore area for me as I'm you know, amazingly talented and have always been torn up at critiques.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)What is endearing, memorable, and even unique about his technique? I've seen billboards with more interesting technique. It's like one of those blond-haired, blue robed Jesus paintings you see in so many cheap bibles. Very art-school. Not mature or expressive at all. Sorta competent is all it is. Average commercial art. I mean, look at the hand holding the Constitution: so many sausages, not a hand with fingers. Notice how the fire emits no light.
Let's look at his "Jesus w/Constitution" painting... Again, more sausages holding the Constitution. I question the drapery of Jesus' robe around the knees. Does the golden robe have long sleeves to the floor or not? Just on Jesus' left arm? not the right? Is the light coming from Jesus' head? It appears to be so on the figures in the foreground, but it appears to be coming from the right on the figures in the background. Ben Franklin seems to be huge compared to the WWI soldier to the left of him....
shall we go on?
Not art with a capital "A".
There are numerous symbols and subtleties in this painting, and Im not ready to reveal all of them, McNaughton said.
Shouldn't the painting reveal them itself?
onenote
(42,782 posts)art as an acceptable response to disapproval of said art. As one artist friend once said to me after some right winger tried to destroy a painting they deemed to be sacrilegious: a world in which it is appropriate to destroy art with which one disagrees is a world that will soon be devoid of art.
What this painting needs is what most posters here are doing: criticism and rebuttal.
Vinca
(50,318 posts)Corporations making record profits is socialism? I wish we had socialism here.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)as fast as I could to a Northern European socialist nation. USA USA USA, sucks.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I've decided to stay, and use Satyagraha and non-violence to reclaim our nation. I hope you'll consider doing the same.
ProgressiveATL
(50 posts)Aristotle said art is derived from truth, one step from reality. Not so this work!
Satire? Nah, satire also requires some truth at core.
Comedy? Umm, not funny.
So, trash? Yes!
Conservatives make terrible creatives because they are scared of anything new:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110903142411.htm
""Our findings imply a deep irony," wrote the authors, who also include Jennifer Mueller of the University of Pennsylvania and Shimul Melwani of the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. "Revealing the existence and nature of a bias against creativity can help explain why people might reject creative ideas and stifle scientific advancements, even in the face of strong intentions to the contrary."
Art requires nonrigid thinking, well beyond the capacity of conservatives.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"Suit the action to the word, the word to the action, with this
special observance, that you o'erstep not the modesty of nature:
for any thing so o'erdone is from the purpose of playing, whose
end, both at the first and now, was and is, to hold as 'twere the
mirror up to nature: to show virtue her feature, scorn her own
image, and the very age and body of the time his form and
pressure"
Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 1724
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Probably too static to even be successful as a comic book.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)Young Turks: Conservative Clown Paints Jesus, Satan and the Liberals
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x387468
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)hatrack
(59,594 posts)After seeing a few of this clown's assprints, it makes you long for smiling Chinese peasants bringing in the harvest beneath the beneficent gaze of Chairman Mao.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)there's approximately 3,500 political cartoons published every day with more trenchant commentary than that painting.
emulatorloo
(44,211 posts)Hope the Koch's pay this guy lots of money for that silly painting.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)white guy in black face!
elias7
(4,029 posts)These people have no idea what socialism is.
midnight
(26,624 posts)McNaughton tells CBSDC that the hands represents his recognition of what is happening (to the Constitution) as it goes up.
There are numerous symbols and subtleties in this painting, and Im not ready to reveal all of them, McNaughton said.
frylock
(34,825 posts)wysiwyg
left coaster
(1,093 posts)..and calling this person an 'artist' is like saying that those guys who sew those white costumes with the pointy hoods are 'fashion designers'..
MikeOlsen
(62 posts)could face six months in prison, a year of supervised release and a $5,000 fine. He will be sentenced in July.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Yeesh, another Boris Vallejo type hack-painter in the making...
chervilant
(8,267 posts)he doesn't even have the gonads to admit he's a political conservative...
hatrack
(59,594 posts)One Nation, Under Cthlulhu
pa28
(6,145 posts)Where was this guy when Bush was shredding the Constitution?
McNaughton's glorified editorial cartoons make no sense at all in their interpretation of reality or history. He caters to the ignorant and apparently he's doing fairly well at it.
JHB
(37,163 posts)...you know, the usual.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)told him obama is a socialist; therefore, obama is a socialist. They don't have to make any valid points why obama is a socialist-they just have to keep repeating he's a socialist. When in reality, obama is a corporatist, like little boots, clinton, reagan. Some just care about the proles a little more than others.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)The rich get to communalize with their corporate funded think tanks socializing their losses and only capitalizing on the poor for bigger profits.
RobinA
(9,898 posts)I was absent from Civics class the day they talked about socialism and the constitution being mutually exclusive. Although this seems to be a common understanding. I sometimes think Obama and the constitution are mutually exclusive, though, but I do have a suspicion that he does know better in his heart of hearts.
JHB
(37,163 posts)And I don't mean the name, that means nothing to me. I mean "the guy who made that 'Jesus delivers the Constitution while the guys who wrote it and left him out, assorted soldiers, and some token you-know-whats look on reverently, and the liberals at the bottom right cower in shame' painting" (as seen in a post above, without the correcting word balloons).
Clearly, the description made it right up his alley. Asteroid stirkes have more subtlety than this guy.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)They are anything but subtle.
jmowreader
(50,567 posts)Is there anyone who'd like to do a painting of Jesus whacking Jon McNaughton upside the head with a baseball bat?