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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:42 PM Apr 2014

Ukraine loses at least $80 billion since Russia takes Crimea

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Ukraine has lost at least $80 billion since Russia annexed its southern Crimea region and the price tag will be much higher when Kiev includes lost profits and the value of possible energy reserves in the Black Sea.

Justice Minister Pavlo Petrenko said Kiev would press its case against Russia at the European Court of Human Rights and could take individuals to court for military crimes and those against its territorial integrity.

"Any state property located on the territory of Crimea is the property of Ukraine and Russia bears the full liability for the losses incurred by state companies, ministries and departments," Petrenko told a news conference.

"Today the amount of such losses is 950 billion hryvnias. These losses do not include lost profits and the value of minerals."

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/us-urkaine-crisis-crimea-idUSBREA3R0X320140428



Odd considering :

Despite the pebble beaches and cliff-hanging castles that made Crimea famous as a Soviet resort hub, the Black Sea peninsula has long been a corruption-riddled economic backwater.

As part of Ukraine, about 40 per cent of Crimea’s annual budget of roughly $500 million was propped up by subsidies from Kiev. Russia would be expected to at least match — and probably far exceed — the Ukrainian annual contribution to raise living standards in its new territory.

http://www.thestar.com/business/economy/2014/03/19/russia_confronts_the_cost_of_annexing_crimea.html
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Ukraine loses at least $80 billion since Russia takes Crimea (Original Post) dipsydoodle Apr 2014 OP
Soviet Russia left Eastern and Central Europe in impoverished shambles uhnope Apr 2014 #1
Sounds Like An Excellent Way To Deal With 'Debt To Russia', Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #2
I agree Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #3
Aside from bond servicing and repayment, dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #6
Not odd at all karynnj Apr 2014 #4
Odd? Exactly.... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #5
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
1. Soviet Russia left Eastern and Central Europe in impoverished shambles
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:59 PM
Apr 2014

Putin is just getting the ball rolling again

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
3. I agree
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 01:24 PM
Apr 2014

I assume the Russians have not given back all of the stolen military ships, aircraft, and other military hardware.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. Aside from bond servicing and repayment,
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 01:46 PM
Apr 2014

some of which is covered by English law aka bullet proof, the highest debt is owed to Gazprom as opposed to Russia.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
4. Not odd at all
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 01:32 PM
Apr 2014

You are conflating the cost flow needed to run Crimea with the value of Crimea. If the cost to maintain your home including heating it and keeping it in good shape is higher than the cost for living in a rental near by would you declare it to have a negative value?

Even if you included JUST the parks, beaches and other public areas are you saying they have no value?

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
5. Odd? Exactly....
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 01:34 PM
Apr 2014

Look at the relative GDP's of Russian and Ukraine, depending on who sourcing them. Were the media included, they would no doubt be even or maybe inverted.

http://austereinsomniac.info/blog/2012/10/14/gdp-comparisons-ukraine-vs-russia-belarus-kazakhstan.html


Reuters? Ah, yes.

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