They ally with Russia's oligarchy, use appeals of uber-nationalism to an ethnic group, brazen propaganda, and now ethnic cleansing.

"One pro-Russian separatist has a clear opinion of Roma and believes the attacks on their homes in Slavyansk are in order. "Local residents are coming to us and complaining about Gypsies," Ruslan Mikeda, a fully-bearded man guarding the occupied headquarters of the secret service, told Die Welt."

That would be an uncomfortable location from which to out oneself as an infiltrator.

What is interesting, obviously, is the reason he states for switching sides, that the vaunted 'neo-nazis' of Kiev were just pawns of the Joooooos!!!!

Or are you trying to defend his charge that the vaunted 'neo-nazis' of Right Sector really are pawns of the Jooooos!!!!!

oligarchs and lament that nothing has changed. I bet some deep psychological issues are at work.

Basically the Maiden fascists were a minority whereas the Russian fascists are a majority.

This is why you have Maiden fascists downplaying the anti-Semitic stuff because they know they are a minority and can be easily marginalized.

But the separatists? They know they can say anything they want, because groups of armed fascists need all the help they can get.

There were rarely any "gypsy" men to be seen because they were already in jail, placed in quarters with men who had TB so they would be infected themselves. The women and children who remained would be seen at Moskovsky train station. Every spring, Russia would load them into buses and drop them off in the middle of the night in Dagestan or Georgia. It was common knowledge. I'd ask my students what had happened to them and this is what they would tell me. It seemed ridiculous until I read an article in the Saint Petersburg Times that confirmed it.

I passed the gypsies everyday because the school I worked at was a few blocks down from the Moskovsky train station.

So many op-eds and more investigative work do not appear in the archives.
I did find a reference to the official Operation Tabor ("Gypsy Camp), as it was called.

Scroll down to "Roma Women Rounded Up."
http://www.sptimes.ru/archive/pdf/972.pdf

(Wow, scanning through that whole archive brings back so many memories.)


As far as the tactic of placing healthy men in close quarters with men already infected with TB, that was a well known tactic that occurred in the notorious Kresty Prison. This prison was seriously the creepiest, most depressing place to walk past. You'd see women standing outside trying to write messages in the air to the men crowded around the tiny windows, trying to get a message to someone inside. The ground would be littered with tiny, folded letters that the men would throw out, hoping that someone would stop by, pick one up and it would somehow end up in the right hands. Always showed up in the Amnesty International list of prisons committing serious human rights abuses. It was closed a few years back. Last I heard it is to be some sort of entertainment/ shopping/ hotel complex. Even when I was there and it was still open, there were very controlled tours being offered due to the history of the place and its famous prisoners such as Trotsky and Kazimir Malevich.


But, yes, so many young, healthy men would end up with a drug-resistent form of TB. It was a vicious cycle. Without healthy men to contribute to the care of the family, the women and children would resort to petty criminality. The petty criminality would lead to harsh actions such as the the Gypsy Camp operation I mentioned above.


In case you are interested in Kresty Prison, btw.
http://www.saint-petersburg.com/museums/kresty-prison-museum/
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-10652/pardon.html

The hidden post below.

He has already been tagged for linking to an anti-semitic hate site:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014787623#post7

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014787623#post10

He said this on another thread:

...Glad I'll be gone when Putin goes after Finland...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014787623#post6

Possibly snark, but he didn't answer me, so I don't know what he meant.

Perhaps he comes from that region which explains the views he is posting here.

What is it abour Europeans and the Roma, anyway?

Makes DU interesting, huh?

The Soviet Union invaded Finland in the 1930s and occupied a region know as Karelia. The Finnish people there (maybe half a million) were forced to leave their homes and start new lives in Finland. After some back and forth, Finnish Karelia was left independent in name, but a de facto part of Finland. It was made an official part of Finland in 1997. Many Russian nationalists feel that Finnish Karelia should be reunited with the Russian region of Karelia and they should all be a part of Russia.
What's more, they also believed that Finland has secret plans to invade Russia and steal Russian Karelia from them.
Which is completely and utterly absurd, but they believe it and have all sorts of little penny press pamphlets that "prove" it.


What Putin really wants, and what I think that particular poster means, is to take Finland back as an ally. To have it within the Russian sphere of influence.
Having traveled by bus countless times between Finland and Russia, I can say that the difference between the two countries is astounding.

their stance on NATO and defense in general. Sweden and Finland have long been neutral.

A ugly pattern seems to be emerging. We'll have to see how long it lasts.

No siree....

Even in America our 'purges' of towns, neighborhoods & counties, (even some entire states) are so recent- the 'purge' shows up vividly, in the demographics of our current census.

That's how you recognize a right-wing movement.