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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts) Mon Apr 28, 2014, 04:33 PM Apr 2014

Several Injured in Clashes in Donetsk (Ukraine)

Source: Moscow Times/Reuters

Several people were wounded when pro-Russian separatists attacked a rally in support of Ukrainian unity in the separatist-held city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine on Monday, a Reuters reporter said.

Dozens of men dressed in military fatigues and wielding baseball bats waded into the rally of some 2,000 people in Donetsk, heart of a separatist uprising against Kiev. They lobbed fire-crackers and what appeared to be at least one stun grenade.

A Reuters reporter saw at least five people with head injuries, including both protesters and separatists. The wounds did not appear to be life-threatening but the violence was a fresh sign of the spiralling tensions and disorder in the east.

The protest, during which people chanted "Donetsk is Ukraine!" and waved the Ukrainian flag, dispersed after the violence.

Read more: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/several-injured-in-clashes-in-donetsk/499125.html

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Several Injured in Clashes in Donetsk (Ukraine) (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 OP

Related story (with pictures) Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #1

rt.com: Ukrainian fascists use their heads to attack baseball geek tragedy Apr 2014 #2

You may think this is completely absurd, but I have actually read such things in Russian media. EmilyAnne Apr 2014 #3

RT's reporter on the scene essentially said as much about the events. No joke. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #6

Those guys with clubs look ominous. (no message) laurent Apr 2014 #5

Another report adds an interesting wrinkle. Igel Apr 2014 #4

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)

1. Related story (with pictures)

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 04:44 PM

Apr 2014

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/04/28/violence-breaks-out-at-pro-ukraine-rally-on-donetsk/

Violence breaks out at pro-Ukraine rally in Donetsk

By Terri Rupar
April 28 at 1:25 pm

A peaceful pro-Ukraine rally in the eastern city of Donetsk turned violent today. Details are still emerging, but The Post's Griff Witte and William Booth were there. Here's what they, and other journalists on the ground, were seeing and tweeting

geek tragedy

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2. rt.com: Ukrainian fascists use their heads to attack baseball

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:53 PM

Apr 2014

bats held by pro-civil rights activists.

EmilyAnne

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3. You may think this is completely absurd, but I have actually read such things in Russian media.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 06:15 PM

Apr 2014

I am serious.
I remember reading about how fascist attacks on international students, minorities and immigrants by Saint Petersburg skinheads were their own fault.
How did they bring such brutality upon themselves?
Well, see, according to the Saint Petersburg head of police (you know, the guy who was supposed to be investigating such acts), they would see groups of men who looked like skinheads, get scared, and then run. The running antagonized the skinheads who, of course, had no choice but to chase them down and beat them beyond recognition or even throw them in front of metro trains.
Yes. If you are black and you see a gang of what looks like skinheads, if you run, you are instigating them to act like a gang of skinheads.

I wish I was kidding.
After reading and hearing such things so often, I must admit that I would not be surprised to see an article about Ukrainian fascists using their heads to attack baseball bats held by pro-civil rights activists.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)

6. RT's reporter on the scene essentially said as much about the events. No joke.

Reply to EmilyAnne (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:33 PM

Apr 2014

https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/460885150579310593

"More vid of nice, peaceful Ukrainians tonight - yet their extremists knew what they were marching these people into."

laurent

(57 posts)

5. Those guys with clubs look ominous. (no message)

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:55 PM

Apr 2014

Igel

(35,317 posts)

4. Another report adds an interesting wrinkle.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:50 PM

Apr 2014

It says that 4 people were taken away in handcuffs and held at the PR building. "For exchange."

Wonder if it's to try to get Ponomarev's deputy released. The DNR has said that it's "at war" and speaks of "traitors" and "spies", as well as "sabotage" and "diversions." They don't seem to be using the word "traitor" lightly, either.

It's attitude, if what Tsar'ov tweeted is correct (it was a jpg of a document allegedly from the DNR) that the referendum they want won't question the existence of the DNR. That they consider an unchallengeable, unalterable fact and anybody--whether journalists, other people, government officials, who challenge this are "traitors". But whether it should be independent, join Russia, or be part of Ukraine--which would assume a coordinated federal system to start.

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