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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:01 AM May 2014

Pelosi Calls For Equal Ratio Of Dem, GOP Members On Benghazi Panel

Source: TPM

SAHIL KAPUR – MAY 6, 2014, 9:45 AM EDT

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on Tuesday called for an equal ratio of Democrats and Republicans on the GOP's upcoming select committee to investigate the Benghazi attacks of 2012.

“If this review is to be fair, it must be truly bipartisan. The panel should be equally divided between Democrats and Republicans as is done on the House Ethics Committee," she said in a statement. "It should require that witnesses are called and interviewed, subpoenas are issued, and information is shared on a bipartisan basis. Only then could it be fair."

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) hasn't announced the partisan ratio of the committee. But his spokesman, Brendan Buck, pointed out that in 2007, then-Speaker Pelosi established a select committee on energy and global warming that included 9 Democrats and 6 Republicans.

A House Democratic leadership aide said that in determining their level of participation, Democrats will consider the partisan ratio as well as the scope of the panel and what it takes to issue a subpoena.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nancy-pelosi-equal-ratio-benghazi-select-committee

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Pelosi Calls For Equal Ratio Of Dem, GOP Members On Benghazi Panel (Original Post) DonViejo May 2014 OP
This is another one of those times when I question Kelvin Mace May 2014 #1
Did you miss this paragraph... DonViejo May 2014 #2
Nope. Kelvin Mace May 2014 #3
No, Pelosi raised the trial balloon... DonViejo May 2014 #4
Again Kelvin Mace May 2014 #5
Now you're departing from your original "either/or" DonViejo May 2014 #6
And Pelosi is Kelvin Mace May 2014 #7
Bingo Doctor_J May 2014 #8
I suspect the equal members is NOT what she is really aiming for karynnj May 2014 #9
Benghazi Panel An Opportunity billhicks76 May 2014 #10
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
1. This is another one of those times when I question
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:34 AM
May 2014

why people consider Pelosi "politically clever".

The way to deal with this horseshit is simply to boycott. Do not dignify the hearing by attending.

Or, if you are going to participate, do nothing but ask questions about the Bush 9/11 "intelligence failure" repeatedly pointing out the comparative body count and incompetence.

STOP. PLAYING.THEIR.GAME.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. Did you miss this paragraph...
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:38 AM
May 2014
A House Democratic leadership aide said that in determining their level of participation, Democrats will consider the partisan ratio as well as the scope of the panel and what it takes to issue a subpoena.


or did you just jump to a response based on the headline of the article?
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. Nope.
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:44 AM
May 2014

What Pelosi said is the issue, not what an "aide" said. What unnamed aides say are trial balloons for focus groups, not leadership.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. No, Pelosi raised the trial balloon...
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:46 AM
May 2014

the aide clarified the depth and breadth. At least, that's the way it was done when I was a Senate aide

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
5. Again
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:50 AM
May 2014

the only proper response to this issue by Democrats is blistering derision and/or discussion of the August 6, 2001 PDB.

Anything else is playing their game and lending legitimacy to the GOP.

When you engage is discussion about whether the Kangaroo Court composition will be fair, you have LOST the issue.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
6. Now you're departing from your original "either/or"
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:10 AM
May 2014

comment:

Or, if you are going to participate, do nothing but ask questions about the Bush 9/11 "intelligence failure" repeatedly pointing out the comparative body count and incompetence.
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. And Pelosi is
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:29 AM
May 2014

legitimizing the GOP's claims.

None of my tactics do, regardless of boolean variables.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
9. I suspect the equal members is NOT what she is really aiming for
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:50 AM
May 2014

I suspect the real goal is this:

"It should require that witnesses are called and interviewed, subpoenas are issued, and information is shared on a bipartisan basis. Only then could it be fair."

This is to eliminate the nonsense where no Democrat is allowed to speak (not even the ranking member). I remember the House and Senate hearings that Hillary Clinton appeared at. There were FAR more Republican House members who used say 4 or their 5 minutes to ask a question framed to indict her or Obama followed by asking her to respond only "yes" or "no". Having Democrats there - alternating in teh questioning allows people to actually explain in more than monosyllables.

If you read the RW sites, it was very clear that they equate appearing before an oversight committee with appearing before a criminal court. The problem is that some like Issa - whether with Holder or Clinton seems to think that is the way that it is - even though it isn't. Here, the goal is to get the sound bite that just from the positioning makes it look like the person testifying is the "criminal".

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
10. Benghazi Panel An Opportunity
Tue May 6, 2014, 05:57 PM
May 2014

Last edited Tue May 6, 2014, 06:42 PM - Edit history (1)

I think it's great. Maybe Dems can grow a pair and use this to their advantage by comparing it to 911 and asking for another 911 Commission since the first one was a whitewashed cover up. Dems did it in 1975 with a new Warren Commission and investigation into multiple assassinations. I met Congressman Louis Stokes from Ohio in 1988 who sat on that previous committee. He told me to my face the panel agreed there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, MLK and RFK and that the previous explanation were lies. BUT they couldn't pin it on a specific person. These days people don't realize that's what they concluded because of the phony media pushing lies. He also sat on the IranContra committee and told me when they went into closed doors executive session testimony all the CIA guys were lying through their teeth and he feared for this country under Bush Sr.

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