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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:23 PM May 2014

Navy reprimands ex-StratCom deputy commander in fake poker-chips case

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Steve Liewer

Rear Adm. Timothy Giardina's long wait for justice in last year's fake poker-chip scandal finally is over.

The Navy announced late Monday that Giardina — the former deputy commander at U.S. Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force Base — had been convicted of two counts of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman in a nonjudicial proceeding called admiral's mast.

The charges involved lying to an investigator from the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation and failing to turn in to authorities three $500 poker chips that Giardina later said he had found in a restroom at a Council Bluffs casino. He spent the chips at the poker tables. They later were determined to be counterfeit.

The presiding officer, Adm. Bill Gorney, issued a punitive letter of reprimand and ordered Giardina to forfeit $4,000.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20140505/NEWS/140509109/1685#navy-reprimands-ex-stratcom-deputy-commander-in-fake-poker-chips-case

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okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
3. He lied to an investigator. That is most definitely conduct unbecoming. If you're going to be the
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:07 PM
May 2014

head of SAC you need to be beyond reproach. I don't want the guy in charge of the nukes in this country (among other things) to feel the need to lie to investigators over some friggin' poker chips.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
4. Having someone with a security clearance and position like that involved in gambling
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:09 PM
May 2014

Does tend to raise red flags for investigators.

So yeah, I'd say a scandal.

24601

(3,962 posts)
7. Given his position at the time, yeah it was. US Strategic Command has Combatant Command authority
Tue May 6, 2014, 06:50 PM
May 2014

over all operational (on station) nuclear weapons platforms and this guy was the three-star Deputy Commander. People in Personnel Reliability Program positions are temporarily taken off nuclear duty for all kinds of things including being sick and on meds that could make your drowsy. Think of nuclear reliability standards not unlike Secret Service officers charged with protecting the President.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
6. Which ends his career
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:37 PM
May 2014

He'll probably put in for retirement sometime in the next couple of weeks. He would never get promoted or be given another decent command with that in his service jacket.

24601

(3,962 posts)
8. I doubt if will retire with three stars. In these kind if cases, the Secretary determines the last
Tue May 6, 2014, 06:53 PM
May 2014

rank in which your served without misconduct. It's likely going to be Read Admiral Upper Half - two stars.

24601

(3,962 posts)
11. If you are moved from a 3 or 4 star position and not confirmed into another one for a period of
Wed May 7, 2014, 08:45 PM
May 2014

time - don't recall if it's 3, 4 or 6 months, an officer reverts to his/her permanent rank. While the Senate approves all regular promotions grade O-4 & above, they are almost always unanimous consent of a list. The difference comes in that all 3 & 4 star positions also require Senate confirmation.

24601

(3,962 posts)
13. It's current policy based on US Law. I'd never count on the press to understand military matters.
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:36 PM
May 2014

Instead go to a credible primary source: Para 10b, CJCSI 1331.01D, dated1 August 2010

http://www.dtic.mil/cjcs_directives/cdata/unlimit/1331_01.pdf

"b. 10 USC 601(b)(4) provides that, pending retirement, the O-9 or O-10
grade may be held for no more than 60 days following departure from the
position of importance and responsibility while awaiting retirement. The 60-
day period begins on the day the officer is relieved from the position. On the
61st day, the officer will revert to the permanent grade (normally two-star),
until retirement at the grade approved by the Secretary of Defense. Should an
officer exceed the 60-day limit while waiting retirement, that headspace will
become available for the replacement on the 61st day."

Also, Article 15s (Captain's/Admiral's Mast in the Navy) cannot reduce the rank of Commissioned Officers.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
10. Interesting
Wed May 7, 2014, 01:05 PM
May 2014

I had forgotten that permanent ranks still exist at all. I looked it up and the 3 and 4 star ranks are still duty / temporary ranks rather than permanent ranks. In general, officers cannot be demoted below their permanent rank without a full court marshal but most of the distinction was eliminated after WWII.

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