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jayfish

(10,039 posts)
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:39 AM May 2014

Web host gives FCC a 28.8Kbps slow lane in net neutrality protest

Source: Ars Technica

Lots of people are angry about FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler's Internet "fast lane" proposal that would let Internet service providers charge Web services for priority access to consumers. But one Web hosting service called NeoCities isn't just writing letters to the FCC. Instead, the company found the FCC's internal IP address range and throttled all connections to 28.8Kbps speeds.

"Since the FCC seems to have no problem with this idea, I've (through correspondence) gotten access to the FCC's internal IP block, and throttled all connections from the FCC to 28.8kbps modem speeds on the Neocities.org front site, and I'm not removing it until the FCC pays us for the bandwidth they've been wasting instead of doing their jobs protecting us from the 'keep America's internet slow and expensive forever' lobby," NeoCities creator Kyle Drake wrote yesterday.

Drake put his FCC-throttling Nginx code on GitHub for anyone who wants to use it on their own site

Read more: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/web-host-gives-fcc-a-28-8kbps-slow-lane-in-net-neutrality-protest/



Fantastic!
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Web host gives FCC a 28.8Kbps slow lane in net neutrality protest (Original Post) jayfish May 2014 OP
omg how cool is this leftyohiolib May 2014 #1
Love it! Scuba May 2014 #2
Nice! cornflake_31 May 2014 #3
Excellent idea - I hope it spreads like wildfire including to the companies that are against this newthinking May 2014 #4
Sounds good to me. If it's good enough for us it's good enough for them. hobbit709 May 2014 #5
Aw yeah, return fire! AtheistCrusader May 2014 #6
Bravo, NeoCities! Gidney N Cloyd May 2014 #7
How did this asshole Tom Wheeler get to be Chairman of the FCC??? bvar22 May 2014 #8
Whatcha wanna bet Plucketeer May 2014 #10
He was apointed by President Obama. He serves at Obama's will. Vincardog May 2014 #26
But...but...but... nt Earth_First May 2014 #33
And should be removed at Obamas will quakerboy May 2014 #36
But compromise... middle ground... work together... partisan squabbling... Scootaloo May 2014 #49
It is only small minded "fking idiots" when it is our side. The Owners are always correct. Ever Vincardog May 2014 #53
IF ONLY! Plucketeer May 2014 #9
They would never allow that to happen..... a kennedy May 2014 #20
Is there a second source? Baitball Blogger May 2014 #11
A bit more of his statment from The Consumerist herding cats May 2014 #12
The Ferengi plan - I love it! csziggy May 2014 #22
Gotta be Star Trek Ferengi herding cats May 2014 #24
I totally missed the Latinum reference! csziggy May 2014 #37
Neither have I other than a few episodes here and there. herding cats May 2014 #38
! DeSwiss May 2014 #34
Excellent! progressoid May 2014 #27
Fracking genius. myrna minx May 2014 #41
They should offer the Ferrari plan. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #45
If true, this is brilliant. cbayer May 2014 #13
ROFLMAO dickthegrouch May 2014 #14
never a good idea to piss of people who are very bright dembotoz May 2014 #15
Recommended, even though this is going to hurt me. mahatmakanejeeves May 2014 #16
Hey! What's wrong with 300 baud ? eppur_se_muova May 2014 #17
I remember getting my first 300 baud modem hueymahl May 2014 #23
K&R nt Zorra May 2014 #18
Delightfully wicked! Auggie May 2014 #19
Nice work! BlueJac May 2014 #21
Why not 2 Kbps? Helen Borg May 2014 #25
He should throttle a bunch of members of congress too. progressoid May 2014 #28
Hell, yeah. Throttle all of Wheeler's corporate accomplices, as well. ancianita May 2014 #29
K&R WhiteTara May 2014 #30
28.8Kbps was once a very cool and fast speed nolabels May 2014 #31
Make The 1%--& Their Tools--Feel Our Pain! cer7711 May 2014 #32
K&R! Enthusiast May 2014 #35
FCC-throttling Nginx code on GitHub dogknob May 2014 #39
Love it! peacebird May 2014 #40
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2014 #42
Uncle Joe! Zorra May 2014 #43
Hello, Zorra. Uncle Joe May 2014 #47
Awesome. Don't feign helplessness. Do shit like this. nt GoneFishin May 2014 #44
Throttle anything that comes from a .gov domain. drm604 May 2014 #46
fun idea defacto7 May 2014 #48
Awesome!! yuiyoshida May 2014 #50
Note that this is entirely legal even under net neutrality Recursion May 2014 #51
I dont support "FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler's Internet "fast lane" proposal" do you? nm rhett o rick May 2014 #52
I do not, nor do I think most people posting about it remotely understand it Recursion May 2014 #54

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
4. Excellent idea - I hope it spreads like wildfire including to the companies that are against this
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

If it gets implemented fairly widely it would drive home the point every time they get online from work. Very imaginative and potentially effective action!

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
5. Sounds good to me. If it's good enough for us it's good enough for them.
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:59 AM
May 2014

Maybe they'll rethink their support.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
53. It is only small minded "fking idiots" when it is our side. The Owners are always correct. Ever
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:52 AM
May 2014

notice how the compromises only seem to go in one direction?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
12. A bit more of his statment from The Consumerist
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:16 PM
May 2014
“The FCC isn’t doing their job of protecting American consumers, or producers like Neocities users,” writes the company’s Kyle Drake. “Perhaps they got a dump truck full of money from the cable corporation lobby, or perhaps they’re too busy surfing Neocities sites. Well either way, it looks like they need some help remembering what their job is.”

Drake says he won’t lift the throttling “until the FCC pays us for the bandwidth they’ve been wasting instead of doing their jobs protecting us from the ‘keep America’s internet slow and expensive forever’ lobby.”

To that end, NeoCities is offering Wheeler, et al, what it dubs The Ferengi Plan:

The Ferengi plan is a special FCC-only plan that costs $1000 per year, and removes the 28.8kbps modem throttle to the FCC. We will happily take Credit Cards, Bitcoin, and Dogecoin from crooked FCC executives that probably have plenty of money from bribes on our Donations page (sorry, we don’t accept Latinum yet).


http://consumerist.com/2014/05/09/web-host-protests-botched-net-neutrality-by-throttling-fcc-to-dial-up-speeds/

Perfect!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
22. The Ferengi plan - I love it!
Fri May 9, 2014, 01:38 PM
May 2014

Is that from the Star Trek:TNG Ferengi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi


Or from the original Asian word? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi#Etymology)

The Star Trek Ferengi are particularly appropriate to today's capitalists. They've gone far beyond the tycoons of previous centuries.

Ferengi culture is so devoted to unregulated capitalism that concepts such as labor unions, sick leave, vacations, or paid overtime for workers are considered abhorrent, because they would interfere with the exploitation of workers. Ferengi workers don't particularly mind this system, because they all want to eventually gather enough wealth to become employers themselves, exploiting their own workers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi#Culture

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
24. Gotta be Star Trek Ferengi
Fri May 9, 2014, 01:46 PM
May 2014

Note his use of Latinum in the last sentence of my snip. It's a currency used in the online game Star Trek by the Ferengi Alliance.

I literally choked on my coffee when I read his statement!

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
38. Neither have I other than a few episodes here and there.
Fri May 9, 2014, 06:44 PM
May 2014

I have played the online game though. Which was the only reason I caught it.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
45. They should offer the Ferrari plan.
Fri May 9, 2014, 08:41 PM
May 2014

They are selling their services too cheaply. They should at least ask enough to buy a Ferrari.

(Although I can now see why the Ferengi plan is apt---I had no idea what it meant.

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
15. never a good idea to piss of people who are very bright
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:24 PM
May 2014

but also gives one pause that someone can just do that

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
16. Recommended, even though this is going to hurt me.
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:32 PM
May 2014

I'm getting at least 45 kb, sometimes 46.67 kb on my dial-up. I've never attained anything like the promised 56 kb.

hueymahl

(2,496 posts)
23. I remember getting my first 300 baud modem
Fri May 9, 2014, 01:40 PM
May 2014

It was a luxury. I think I spend like $200 on it. The big jump was two years later to 1200 (though I never got that speed consistently - always hovered around 720). Hayes modem, made of metal, if I remember correctly.

Seemed like a rocket at the time. Could download a HUGE game file of 1 Meg in less than an hour!

drm604

(16,230 posts)
46. Throttle anything that comes from a .gov domain.
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:21 PM
May 2014

What's really needed is for some bigger sites to implement this. I doubt that many people at the FCC spend much time on the front page of Neocities.org

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
48. fun idea
Sat May 10, 2014, 03:43 AM
May 2014

but it can't last long. The scripts will easily show ID in their logs, then it will be no trick for them to reroute a workaround.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
51. Note that this is entirely legal even under net neutrality
Sat May 10, 2014, 06:13 AM
May 2014

In fact, it's one of the chief ways spammers are (somewhat) stymied. It's a cool gimmick, but it doesn't actually address the technical question of network neutrality...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
54. I do not, nor do I think most people posting about it remotely understand it
Sat May 10, 2014, 03:15 PM
May 2014

What people are warning about, that is, the ability of carriers to slow down traffic they don't like carrying, is already completely legal, and would remain legal if anything short of common carrier were enacted (network neutrality is short of common carrier, and nobody wants to enact common carrier, because of for example spammers).

We've gotten where we are today by a deliberately vague and untested legal situation (net neutrality was never required by the FCC or IANA or anybody else, only vaguely agreed to by the various carriers), and it's usually always problematic when those finally get articulated.

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