Republicans demand hearings in Congress over soldier's release
Source: Reuters
(Reuters) - Republican lawmakers angered by a White House deal to swap five Taliban prisoners for a captured U.S. soldier in Afghanistan on Monday demanded hearings over why the Obama administration reached the agreement without consulting Congress.
Adding to criticism of the decision to negotiate the release of Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl were accusations by some soldiers who served with him that they consider Bergdahl a deserter who cost the lives of several comrades.
The State Department has said it considered Bergdahl "a member of the military who was detained while in combat" and the administration says members of Congress were briefed for years on efforts to free the Idaho native.
The Pentagon said it was unable to confirm media reports that six troops died trying to rescue Bergdahl and said circumstances surrounding his June 2009 disappearance were unclear.
"There have been several looks into the circumstances surrounding his disappearance, but we've never publicly said anything, primarily because we haven't had a chance to speak with Sergeant Bergdahl himself," said Army Colonel Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/02/us-usa-afghanistan-bergdahl-idUSKBN0ED26X20140602
Welcome to the new Benghazi!
More bickering from the teabillies. Let the impeachment ceremonies begin, YAY !
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)the Teapers have no shame
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Even if he was a deserter, he's a member of the military, the only U.S. military prisoner of the Afghan war. We don't leave prisoners of war behind as a matter of principle, no matter what the individual soldier was like. If the Republicans talk about impeachment, I'd like to see them try. The American people in the long run will only see this as a absolutely necessary move and one that shouldn't be subject to any conditions imposed by Republicans in Congress who want to play politics.
kardonb
(777 posts)love to see the repukes shoot themselves into the foot !
IkeRepublican
(406 posts)They always do. And the Republican fellating media will be right there to spread it out like always.
Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)intelligence of or information from the Taliban, having lived among them for years.
Apparently his life was in danger and Karzai is upset that he wasn't consulted regarding the trade.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/02/us-usa-afghanistan-bergdahl-idUSKBN0ED26X20140602
A source close to Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai's palace in Kabul said Karzai was angry at being kept in the dark about the deal. "The president is now even more distrustful of U.S. intentions in the country," said the source, who declined to be identified.
"He is asking: How come the prisoner exchange worked out so well, when the Afghan peace process failed to make any significant progress?"
(snip)
U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan James Cunningham told reporters in Kabul the Karzai administration had been made aware of the impending prisoners' swap.
"It's not behind the government's back. The government's known that we're trying to (do) this for a long time, and they agreed to it and they supported it," he said.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)However the crazies in the republican party simply want to find something to bash the president with, this is just their latest BS "scandal"!
I really think they will be hurt big time with this one if they keep it up. Americans are tired the war, and if they keep bashing the soldier and trying to use this against the president, they risk being seen as the total fools they really are!
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)all of the facts"? Due to our election laws we have allowed the introduction of Big Money to our FORMER Representatives. Give the guy a break! He just gets out of years of captivity to face this crap? Couldn't they have waited until they had more information and make the news later, if or when they arrest him and bring formal charges? Where is the fun in that, you say?
The RW politicians and Fox, Limpballs and the rest cannot wait! Our government, and the media who cover it, have become caricatures. We really could have the best thing going again if enough (mega huge masses) of people committed to wresting control from Big Money by demanding Publicly Funded Elections.
I know I am a broken record on this topic for all of the DU regulars, and to you, I apologize. To anyone new, or that hasn't come across me til now, I am dedicated to passing on this message because I firmly believe that none of the myriad serious issues we face are going to be solved until we stop the legal bribery of our politicians. I am old enough to have known a different time. A time, though not perfect, was a hell of a lot better than the circus we have now. You could usually rely on what you saw on the news. It wasn't near as hard to support a family. Public education was much better then than now. I worry for my kids and grand kids, and for everyone else for that matter. This is my effort to spread the word, if you agree please spread it too.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I know I did. Anything that he does is up for investigation. Issa is on it!
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Cong. Issa: "Mr. White House Spokesman, why did the Evil Kenyan Usurper not come to us thirty days before he handed five Taliban Terrorists back so they could kill more of our heroes, and beg us for permission? And before you answer, remember that we're going to consider anything you say a lie and use it when we write articles of impeachment for Mr. Obama."
White House staffer: "If you're going to be that way, then fuck you and the horse you rode in on."
Issa: "Please expand on your remarks."
Staffer: "Okay. Bear in mind we've been telling Congress everything we had in our efforts to retrieve Sergeant Bergdahl, and we've already told you we were pursuing a prisoner exchange. In fact, we told you that months ago, so we've met our AUMF-mandated requirement for thirty days' notification. There are three reasons we didn't come to you 30 days before this operation commenced.
"First, we didn't have thirty days. The Taliban finally agreed to this, and if we were to delay the exchange by thirty days they'd withdraw their offer.
"Second, Sergeant Bergdahl didn't have thirty days. The Taliban said he was lookin' pretty poorly and needed trained doctors and well-equipped hospitals right away. The president believed, and we concurred, that Sergeant Bergdahl's parents would much rather have a live son than a folded flag.
"But most important, secrecy was of the essence. We have learned over the past five-and-a-half years that it's about as hard to keep classified information from leaking out of this joint than it is to keep water from leaking out of a bucket with no bottom. I mean, come on: We send you assholes a piece of quality Sensitive Compartmented Information with a cover sheet that says 'not to be released to unauthorized persons because people's lives are on the line,' and what's the first thing that happens? You go on Fox Fucking 'News' waving the shit around going 'woo, woo, look what that evil black bastard 53 percent of you were stupid enough to vote for is trying to hide from the American People!' If that would have happened, the only part of Sgt. Bergdahl we would have gotten back would have been his head. You know it as well as we. I thank you for the chance to expand my remarks, but I am going to alter my original remark: regardless of whether you're going to be that way, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Now get the fuck out of my way. Unlike you assholes in Congress, President Obama actually works for the American people and I need to go help him."
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)No law Congress passes can change that. They would have to change the constitution itself and they didn't. Take it to the courts, lets see what happens.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)Maybe wind this thing down.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)The Republicans may be making a mistake -- I don't think the public will buy their arguments. Even Benghazi hasn't really gone anywhere.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Mission went off without a hitch, quite probably because the whiny little shits didn't know about it.
George II
(67,782 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)I assure you that they would do exactly that if they could. That's how fucking fucked-up we've become.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Maybe we'll finally get a court to review the validity of these signing statements. This looks like the perfect test case for such a suit for a couple reasons. 1. there is a pretty clear breach, and 2. this action isn't super important to either side. Someone will try to capitalize on it though to try and limit the power of the Executive.
And this won't become another Benghazi, Obama is close to being a lame duck if he isn't already. The Repubs can only rile up their opposition by impeaching or making a super big deal to the public's eye.
George II
(67,782 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Maybe I'm just hoping this signing statement power gets reviewed at some point. IMO the executive is too powerful, and has been since Bush started going off and doing whatever he wanted. I'd like to see a less powerful president in the long term.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)and Mujahideen.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)three words.....take your choice and I won't sully this board with my three.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)They are staffed by republicana.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)"WE GOT TO CUT THE SPENDING!WE GOT TO CUT THE SPENDING! Hypocritical,lying,bastards!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)waste taxpayers money.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)As as soon as the release was made public some at DU started the countdown clock for when Republicans, or Darrel Issa would call for investigations over the issue. So here it is; the call has come.
TygrBright
(20,760 posts)...and thinks, "Gee, what if I get taken prisoner. Will Congress piss all over my chances of getting exchanged?"
Because I would be thinking that, yep.
What say you, DUer vets & active military?
curiously,
Bright
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)The is a large flaw in the argument against the President's authorization to trade the 5 GITMO detainees for this 1 American soldier. First of all he was the only American POW being actively held captive anywhere in the world at the time he was released. While we traded 5 Taliban fighters for him, they will not be able to enter Afghanistan until June 2015--6 months after all combat missions in Afghanistan will have ended, we will have less than 10,000 troops who will be acting as merely supervisors in training the Afghan forces. So if these 5 men do end up going back into battle, the only people they will be fighting will be other Afghans.
Imagine the outcry and the reasoning by Republicans to go back into Afghanistan even after 2016 should we have had even 1 known American actively being held captive as a POW by Taliban forces. I thought that was the beauty of the American Military is that they will not leave even 1 man behind. We have left this young man behind for 5 years now, and in 6 months when our Military presence will decline by some 28,000 soldiers, what chance would we have saving this mans life and returning the only POW with a military presence of less than 10,000?
WhiteTara
(29,715 posts)cynzke
(1,254 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)Is the GOP saying that Americans are worth LESS than a Taliban freak?
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)bpj62
(999 posts)I have some Facebook "friends" who are going ape shit over this whole thing. The funny thing is one of them is married to a 20 year veteran of the Air Force and when I said what if this was your husband what would you want done and the silence was deafening. Its all about their hatred of Obama and they cannot allow him to get any good press at all.
geretogo
(1,281 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)About the hippie peacenik liberals cursing and spitting on returning soldiers/POWs from the Vietnam Conflict? And how indifferent/uncaring Dems were to the struggles and plight of battle-scarred, sometimes disabled veterans trying to re-adjust to civilian life??
I seem to remember the GOP getting a lot of mileage out of that little talking point...