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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 05:20 AM Jun 2014

Obama points to Vermont as a model for carbon reduction

Source: Vermont Digger

The Obama administration’s proposed crackdown on carbon emissions cited Vermont’s environmental policies as an example for how coal states can achieved necessary greenhouse gas reductions.

The Environmental Protection Agency on Monday released details of a proposed regulation requiring states to come up with a plan to collectively cut the nation’s carbon emissions by 30 percent of 2005 levels by 2030.

Vermont does not generate electricity from coal and is the only state not required to come up with a plan (the District of Columbia is also exempt). The ruling targets coal-powered electric plants that are the nation’s leading source of carbon emissions, but it is intended to give states flexibility to find ways to cut carbon emissions.

The ruling cites Vermont’s energy efficiency program as an example of how states can reduce carbon emissions. The state’s regulated efficiency utility, Efficiency Vermont, offers rebates and incentives for energy-efficient appliances, among other efforts.

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Read more: http://vtdigger.org/2014/06/02/obama-points-vermont-model-carbon-reduction/

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Obama points to Vermont as a model for carbon reduction (Original Post) bananas Jun 2014 OP
K&R Cha Jun 2014 #1
Theres barely 1/2 million people in Vermont. No big accomplishment. 7962 Jun 2014 #2
That's extremely misinformed. nt bananas Jun 2014 #3
We'll see what the power bills look like in another 10 years. 7962 Jun 2014 #8
Wyoming have lower population than Vermont yet... TRoN33 Jun 2014 #5
What does the size of the state have to do with anything? karynnj Jun 2014 #6
There's a little town just south of where I live. They get most of their power from the landfill. 7962 Jun 2014 #7
MFG griloco Jun 2014 #4
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
2. Theres barely 1/2 million people in Vermont. No big accomplishment.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 06:02 AM
Jun 2014

If the govt really wants to cut carbon, they'll get utilities to build more nuclear plants. Otherwise we're waiting on technology to catch up with policy

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
5. Wyoming have lower population than Vermont yet...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 07:24 AM
Jun 2014

They're polluting more often than ours. We don't have gas shale for fracking which is thankful and barely operated coal mines here in Vermont. We take care of our own Mother Nature very well. And we are also always in top three for most healthily and fitness. We are also the first state to say NO to nuclear power plant not more than two mile from my home.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. What does the size of the state have to do with anything?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jun 2014

If somethings work in VT, which also is geographically small, why would they not work in a state that is both bigger and has more people? I suspect that difference with VT is the responsiveness of government and the respect for what really matters for quality of life. I suspect though that the answer may differ given the needs and what works in different areas. For example, few states could follow Washington State's heavy use of hydroelectrical power.

You might actually have a better case if you said HI, where the temperature is a near constant at a comfortable temperature. Heating and air conditioning are in total likely quite low compared to other places.

It sounds more like you having an agenda.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. There's a little town just south of where I live. They get most of their power from the landfill.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:09 PM
Jun 2014

Methane capture system. Works great and supplies power to a food processor as well. Smart clean way to generate power. But its not gonna work for the city I live in, which has nearly 100K.
Sure, we should continue to implement these types of tech, but if you just say "close all the coal plants" like some want, our power bills WILL go way up. And who will be hurt the most? The poor.
We're already forced to buy AC units with a "cleaner" freon and most AC folks will tell you they wont last nearly as long as the previous units. So again, you have to spend MORE money quicker. Refrigerators have the same issue. Cost more, shorter life, but save a little on power. Thankfully autos are longer lasting than they were 30 yrs ago. Thats a plus.
I dont have an agenda; its just that none of this makes a shitpot of difference when China and India and others continue to do what they want.

griloco

(832 posts)
4. MFG
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 07:00 AM
Jun 2014

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