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hexola

(4,835 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:37 AM Jun 2014

Pentagon to review claims US soldiers killed during search for Bergdahl

Source: Fox News

The sense of celebration surrounding the announcement Saturday of Bergdahl's release quickly has given way to controversy -- including questions surrounding his initial disappearance from his eastern Afghanistan post five years ago and the lengths to which U.S. forces went to find him.

The names and faces of six soldiers, who died allegedly during the search for Bergdahl, began to emerge within hours of the soldier's release.

Asked about the claims, Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said it's "impossible" to confirm right now whether anybody's death was directly linked to the hunt for Bergdahl.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/02/pentagon-to-look-into-allegations-soldiers-killed-effort-to-recover-bergdahl/

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Pentagon to review claims US soldiers killed during search for Bergdahl (Original Post) hexola Jun 2014 OP
Wow controversy Fox News? Also - this sounds like a quick rewrite of the NYT story underpants Jun 2014 #1
Side note for your salesman line... titaniumsalute Jun 2014 #28
Ha! underpants Jun 2014 #29
This may be a true controversy randr Jun 2014 #2
How many soldiers died looking for Bush's WMD? GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #3
*this* can't be said enough. nt brer cat Jun 2014 #4
How many Americans died when Bush ignored the 9/6/01 PDB? KansDem Jun 2014 #6
i'm sure they have already looked at that Enrique Jun 2014 #5
Seems like it should be easy to find out if this is true or not for the Pentagon. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #7
The Pentagon will spin any story to put soldier's actions in a positive light. OnlinePoker Jun 2014 #11
Whether that is true or not they should have been able tp answer the question by now. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #12
The problem, I think, is that individual commanders may not have had a handle TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #14
Seems like after 5 years they should know and if they don't then God help us. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #15
The commanders on the ground might have changed official stories TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #16
this whole thing is weird. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #17
NYT says Pentagon has done at least one review already bigtree Jun 2014 #8
They were killed due to Pentagon incompetence. broiles Jun 2014 #18
Yeah, I think this is bogus. joshcryer Jun 2014 #24
Obama can't do anything correctly because Stainless Jun 2014 #9
IF he deserted, he must be heaven05 Jun 2014 #10
Who collected these names and photos and put them forth, and managed TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #13
I believe you. It's their MO. freshwest Jun 2014 #22
In their rush to politicize - they may have impugned command? hexola Jun 2014 #23
We should not be linking to Fox News on DU. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #19
Wrong - I linked to FOX to show even THEY were skeptical... hexola Jun 2014 #20
That story does not suggest Fox is skeptical the soldiers were killed. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #25
Were they looking for him as a POW or enemy combatant? hexola Jun 2014 #21
No. It depends on whether you hate Obama. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #26
wiki leaks has the entire capture (he was in the latrine) and the search. lots of civies were hurt. Sunlei Jun 2014 #27

underpants

(182,803 posts)
1. Wow controversy Fox News? Also - this sounds like a quick rewrite of the NYT story
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:47 AM
Jun 2014

The Pentagon has already reviewed the casualty records and can't connect the 6 (or is it 2?) deaths to searching for Berdahl.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025041947

As a salesman I knew used to say to one of our suppliers, "why don't you sharpen up that pencil and see if you can find me a better price".

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
28. Side note for your salesman line...
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:08 AM
Jun 2014

I had someone use that on me towards the end of the negotiation once...I told him that I had used a laser to sharpen this pencil and from here on out the pencil would only get more dull. So let's go ahead and wrap this deal up quickly. LOL.

randr

(12,412 posts)
2. This may be a true controversy
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:54 AM
Jun 2014

Regardless of Bergdahl's status a mission was created to find him. Our soldiers do not get to pick the missions nor do they get to bemoan the results.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
6. How many Americans died when Bush ignored the 9/6/01 PDB?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jun 2014
Ron Suskind’s “The One Percent Doctrine” is out this week, and the Washington Post’s Barton Gellman says it’s full of “jaw-dropping stories” about the Bush administration’s war on terror.

Or lack thereof.

We’ve known for years now that George W. Bush received a presidential daily briefing on Aug. 6, 2001, in which he was warned: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” We’ve known for almost as long that Bush went fishing afterward.

What we didn’t know is what happened in between the briefing and the fishing, and now Suskind is here to tell us. Bush listened to the briefing, Suskind says, then told the CIA briefer: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”

http://www.salon.com/2006/06/20/911pdb/

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. i'm sure they have already looked at that
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:10 AM
Jun 2014

they have been contemplating this deal at least since 2012, I imagine every political aspect has been vetted thoroughly.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
11. The Pentagon will spin any story to put soldier's actions in a positive light.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:40 AM
Jun 2014

They'll keep doing this until their lies are exposed. All you need to look at are the Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch stories to see what I'm talking about.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
14. The problem, I think, is that individual commanders may not have had a handle
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jun 2014

on who was doing what/where.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
16. The commanders on the ground might have changed official stories
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jun 2014

for various purposes, or just didn't know what their people were doing--it's also possible, as the NYT article puts forth, that Bergdahl's platoon mates simply blame him for every death for four months after he left, true or not.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
8. NYT says Pentagon has done at least one review already
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jun 2014

The furious search for Sergeant Bergdahl, his critics say, led to the deaths of at least two soldiers and possibly six others in the area. Pentagon officials say those charges are unsubstantiated and are not supported by a review of a database of casualties in the Afghan war.

The soldiers began a frantic search for Sergeant Bergdahl using Predator drones, Apache attack helicopters and military tracking dogs. The most intense search operation, leaked war reports show, wound down after eight days — well before the deaths of six soldiers on patrols in Paktika Province in late August and early September. But, complicating matters, some soldiers contend they were effectively searching for 90 days because of clear orders: If they heard rumors from locals that Sergeant Bergdahl might be nearby, they should patrol the area.

The anger toward Sergeant Bergdahl increased exponentially after Sept. 4, when they learned that two members of Third Platoon, which routinely went on tandem missions with Second Platoon and who they believed were also searching for Sergeant Bergdahl, had been killed in an ambush. Pfc. Matthew Martinek and Lt. Darryn Andrews, both of them friends of Mr. Cornelison, died in the ambush. A Defense Department official said it was unclear whether the two men were killed directly because of the search for Sergeant Bergdahl.


read more: http://t.co/gD6ayvekFR

DU link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025041947

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
24. Yeah, I think this is bogus.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jun 2014

The soldiers need a justification for their lost comrades, and a "failure of intelligence" due to "drones being used for the search" is that justification.

Stainless

(718 posts)
9. Obama can't do anything correctly because
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

"Faux Noise" sees to it that the five minute attention span of it's viewers is filled with misinformation and lies.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. IF he deserted, he must be
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jun 2014

examined thoroughly. Mental efficiency, PTSD from violence and gore. The insanity of war can be explained to NO ONE who has not been in the thick of it. I refuse to judge this individual because I did not walk in his shoes. Combat assignments sometimes CAN BE too hard on some. No judgment until all facts are known. This RW frenzy of lies, rumors and downright 'hang em high' shows me how many "82nd Chairborn Div." people are out there. Disgusting and revolting. If you weren't there, STFU!!!!!

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
13. Who collected these names and photos and put them forth, and managed
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

to do so within hours of Bergdahl's release? The Pentagon doesn't have this info amassed the same way, obviously. I believe the GOP knew that Bergdahl was going to either die (bash Obama), languish (bash Obama), or get sent home (bash Obama), and had a plan for all three outcomes--including bringing forth evidence against Bergdahl before he even landed on US soil. I think the attacks against Bergdahl, some of which may have merit and should be considered at some point, were coordinated in advance.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
23. In their rush to politicize - they may have impugned command?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jun 2014

That's what I took from this.

"Really - we sent 6 guys to their doom looking for this dude?"

No Way...

I'm sure six guys were killed in the weeks following Bergdahl's disappearance/capture...but I doubt there was much of an attempt to find him beyond the first few hours of his disappearance.

Patrols went on as usual. "Keep an eye out for..."

Guys were killed

BAS

Business As Usual...

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
20. Wrong - I linked to FOX to show even THEY were skeptical...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 07:06 PM
Jun 2014

of this claim...If FOX is walking it back...well...

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
25. That story does not suggest Fox is skeptical the soldiers were killed.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:09 AM
Jun 2014

On the contrary. Fox is suggesting the military is now looking into the deaths as being caused by Bergdahl. Which is bullshit.

What is it you think Fox is walking back? They've gone full Benghazi on the Bergdahl story.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
26. No. It depends on whether you hate Obama.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:52 AM
Jun 2014
http://www.stonekettle.com/2014/06/negotiating-with-terrorists.html?m=1

For the last two years, these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment, because the President ordered the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American who publicly renounced his citizenship, declared his allegiance to our sworn enemies, and who then actively took up arms against the United States and loudly encouraged others to do so as well.  These same people would sacrifice untold numbers of American soldiers to capture a self-declared terrorist and give him a trial because they simply cannot and will not acknowledge that the president did the right thing, but these very same people would condemn Bergdahl and leave him to rot in Afghanistan without so much as an Article 32 hearing, solely to further their blind hatred of Barack Obama.




Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. wiki leaks has the entire capture (he was in the latrine) and the search. lots of civies were hurt.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:00 AM
Jun 2014

of course republican fox doesn't care about those facts.

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