Former vice president dick chaney undergoes heart transplant - Update
Source: MSNBC.COM
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Former Vice President Dick Cheney recovering after heart transplant
Former Vice President Dick Cheney was recovering Saturday at a hospital in Falls Church, Va., after undergoing a heart transplant, NBC News reported.
Cheney was in the Intensive Care Unit of Inova Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, his officew said in a statement.
The former vice president has been on the cardiac transplant list for more than 20 months. In 2010, Cheney had a left ventricular assist device implanted for treatment of end-stage heart failure.
Although the former Vice President and his family do not know the identity of the donor, they will be forever grateful for this lifesaving gift.
Read more: http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/24/10847614-former-vice-president-dick-cheney-recovering-after-heart-transplant
mucifer
(23,576 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)aggiesal
(8,938 posts)with taxpayer $$$'s
Single payer for gov't officials but none for us!
Suich
(10,642 posts)he got a "less than perfect" kidney. I was amazed...he seems to be doing fine now!
Don't know about hearts.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)medicine, he died of cancer at the age of 53. It's the anti-rejection medicine that is so dangerous because the drugs damage the immune system to the point that the patient is more susceptible to other diseases.
It wasn't long after the transplant surgery that a bump began to grow on his face, originating from his carotid artery -- very similar in appearance & position to the bump on John McCain's face.
I read somewhere that new anti-rejection drugs are being developed that will be less destructive to the immune system; I sure hope so!
liberal N proud
(60,347 posts)Over someone else probably.
shanti
(21,675 posts)that the dick stole while in office
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)so I think you might be mistaken. Anyway, my contribution is that Cheney had a heart implanted, not having been born with one.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)thing years ago.
freethought
(2,457 posts)Surgeons implanted some sort of system to his heart. The technique was shown on Rachel Maddow. It quite literally looks like household plumbing attached to the heart. IF I remember correctly the system is powered from an exterior source and due to that fact, Tricky Dick Cheney would have no heart beat (Did he even have one to begin with?).
The doctor said that the procedure was essentially the end game for Dick Cheney. If his heart had anymore problems, options for treatment were nil given his age.
One poster on this thread made a good point. If he is over 70 years old, why is he getting a transplant? Even in countries with socialized medicine, patients over a certain age do not organ transplants.
Hmmm.
3waygeek
(2,034 posts)for Left Ventricular Assist Device -- it basically takes over the left ventricle's function of pumping the freshly oxygenated blood to the rest of the body.
I've had left ventricle problems for years -- not enough to require an LVAD. However, I will be having mitral valve surgery sometime in the next few months.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)crunch60
(1,412 posts)in case he should blow a fuse or his battery should die out. He is Bionic Man! This is one evil dude. War Criminal extraordinaire, goes unpunished.
Cheney tied to cash theft and possible murder in Iraq
Quote:
According to an informed source, Dick Cheney, while vice president, amassed a fortune in cash stolen by U.S. occupation forces in Iraq from Saddam Hussein and some of his leading officials and advisers.
http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=9956.0;wap2
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)aggiesal
(8,938 posts)the last one was pure evil.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Something about being unable to take a bath because he had electrical wire sticking out of his back, attached to some power supply to keep his ticker going. That's bad.
Initech
(100,108 posts)Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)Maby this one will make him confess to all of his crimes.
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)They installed something just long enough to get him to a courtroom in the Hague.
surrealAmerican
(11,365 posts)Shouldn't donor organs go to people who are more likely to survive a long time after the surgery?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....Kind of like the evil witch does on ABC's Sunday "Once Upon a Time"....
bigtree
(86,008 posts). . .to get this heart?
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Someone younger than him might have not been compatible with the heart he got. And they also go by location. If he was physically located nearer to the available heart than a younger person who was much farther away, sometimes established policy gives the heart to the patient who is closer.
His waiting time was more than 20 months. The average waiting time for a heart is six months to three years. So based upon his waiting time it looks like he didn't get any special treatment. He might have got special treatment in other ways that we don't know about of course. And he has better health insurance and more resources than most of us do. But then again in most cases Medicaid and Medicare will pay for transplants. They tried to change Medcaid policy toward transplants in Arizona but their GOP governor was forced to back off from that.
http://www.cpmc.org/advanced/heart/patients/topics/transplant.html
bigtree
(86,008 posts)thanks
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)The rules for organ transplants must be uniform and not shortcutted for anybody.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)to a heartless bastard? This is just the kind of story that makes me NOT want to be an organ donor.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and you've got a Hammond B3 please advise.
aquart
(69,014 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)but only if Curmudgeoness should decide to donate an organ.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,026 posts)Organ donor indeed!
winstars
(4,220 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)that I've got friends in Dayton who had a B3 in their living room with a Leslie but not the correct stool / seat. My friends sister collects antiques and she went off to an estate sale on a Sunday afternoon while I was over your side. She got back late afternoon with a big smile on her face carrying an immaculate seat which she'd bought for $45.
But that wasn't the only thing she'd bought. When the sale had finished she'd wandered off into barn and had already enquired what would happened to stuff not sold. The answer was it would be cleared as trash. In the corner of the barn was something covered with linen and sure enough it was a B3 - mint ! They let her have it for $20 to save loading it up as scrap.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)So you will have to find that Hammond elsewhere. I do have a cute little harmonica though.
NYC Liberal
(20,138 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,138 posts)pstokely
(10,531 posts)nt
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)BootinUp
(47,201 posts)I am sure there would be a good match there.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)I wish him a long, long, long life....
I hope he lives long enough to bury his children.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)El Supremo
(20,365 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)that the heart be taken from either a hyena or jackal. Extra points if the heart is taken from a carcass being eaten by either a hyena or jackal.
Seems fitting.
rug
(82,333 posts)frogmarch
(12,160 posts)enough to meet his end in prison.
elleng
(131,210 posts)has been on the transplant list for more than 20 months.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/03/24/us/politics/ap-us-cheney-heart-surgery.html?hp
marshall gaines
(347 posts)what a waste of a perfectly good heart. when will america stop being so wasteful?
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Inquiring minds want to know!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)Did he finally quit smoking?
They refuse liver transplants to alcoholics who have not maintained sobriety. I wonder if they refuse heart transplant to unrepentant smokers.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Doesn't hurt enough, and I'm sure he's got great drugs, but it hurts.
ladywnch
(2,672 posts)vaguely resembling a heart. It will be seen as a foreign object.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)That pretty much sums it up.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)that Cheney has such great federal health insurance and it covers such an expensive operation! Now why in the world do the repubs. not want the rest of us to have the same?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Otherwise healthy, but laid off, with a family and no health insurance.
I wonder how all of those people are doing today.
Turbineguy
(37,375 posts)another chance to thank him for not murdering my Son.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)I hope he never gets out of the hospital alive. I hope he suffers and suffers and suffers and then dies. Fuck him, he doesn't deserve a second chance at life.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,347 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,212 posts)of the old Doonesbury episode, where the heart of a liberal is transplanted into the body of a conservative, who then becomes a liberal himself! His wife sobs, "I was warned that he might be politically impaired for the rest of his life - but a (SOB!) Democrat!"
I know that's not how the heart actually works, but it would be nice if that happened with Cheney.
Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)...so I'm stunned he was fast tracked for a heart.
With his age and risk factors such as stress and former smoker, I'm stunned as I imagine he was cynically leapfrogged past some more appropriate recipients.
Ohio Joe
(21,769 posts)Bastard deserves a trial and a prison cell, not a transplant.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)reACTIONary
(5,789 posts)larkrake
(1,674 posts)Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)auntAgonist
(17,252 posts)Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)when there are younger and more viable candidates waiting. Getting Trayvon's heart is exactly what that ass hole would do with out hesitation. He probably used the CIA to find a good match and then put out a hit on the poor kid to one of his obvious minnions. Sorry if I have offended you, but I really don't give a shit. Dick has offended me, and I wouldn't put anything past him. He probably didn't even need surgery, just fucking swallowed it, vampire that he is.
D_F
guitar man
(15,996 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)marias23
(379 posts)What a waste.
rzemanfl
(29,573 posts)davepdx
(224 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)I Think Mrs. DICK mentioned it in an interview.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)BamaFanLee
(64 posts)There are far more people deserving of a good heart than Chaney.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)took on the personality of the organ donor. So maybe there's hope for Cheney.
penndragon69
(788 posts)will wither and rot inside his DEMONIC, hate filled carcass.
You don't give blood to rotting, decaying road kill, you scrap it off the road and dump
it in the trash.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)May this new heart reject him.....
underpants
(182,950 posts)El Supremo
(20,365 posts)mackattack
(344 posts)Because only a wizard can keep that man going.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Fuck knows we're still paying for them.
qbhawk
(5 posts)Well now, what is this story really about? A man with a Heart? or a Robot who never had a Heart. I alway thought that this man has been in the hospital too many times for the tinkering of heart that does not exist. A normal person would have been dead by now! Is it too far fetched to think, that we might be under the control of Extraterrestrials ... Beings, like a Dick Cheney who are really not from, or of this earth ... but from another dimension here to destroy this earth. Oil exploitation, Unjust wars, Lying, shooting his buddy without remorse, the scooter libby sacrificed etc etc. Many of us would be in prison just for thinking about any of this, if caught in association with such crimes against humanity.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Cheney - as he really is?
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)be it because hes wealthy and or well connected?
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Cheney waited for more than 20 months so he falls within that time window.
http://www.cpmc.org/advanced/heart/patients/topics/transplant.html
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)Hopefully the new heart will work better than the last one in more ways than one
jerseygal
(67 posts)Former Vice President Cheney received a heart transplant earlier today but the heart has begun to show signs of rejection.
The heart itself was quoted as stating "that it had expected to be transplanted into an individual who had previously had a heart" and was surprised to find itself placed into a heartless individual.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)You can be sure of that.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)long enough to stand trial for the war crimes now.
mackattack
(344 posts)if the surgeon didnt show up to the operation because he had "other priorities."
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Tissue matching would have only allowed a transplant from a like source... A normal heart would reject Cheney.
queerart
(1,784 posts)I send positive energy to him, and his family......
Once he is better, we all can get back to business as usual.......
Marthe48
(17,047 posts)rppper
(2,952 posts)you can run...draw it out a few more years with surgery....but theres a special place at the dinner table in hell next to hitler, attilla the hun and nero.....
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:46 AM - Edit history (1)
Whose heart did he steal?
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)in Arizona. I hear they deny people hearts there. And all these years he's lived without one? Fucker. Bastard.
Sorry--I'm not feeling very charitable right now. This is just another nightmare from those bastards stepping on the rest of us again.
BiggJawn
(23,051 posts)What would you say the chances of one of us peons getting a new pump if we were 71-y-o would be? Zip?
GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Cheney should be in Leavenworth with along with Robert Bales. Throw George Zimmerman in the same cell and we will hit the trifecta.
pstokely
(10,531 posts)nt
SylviaD
(721 posts)teewrex
(96 posts)onenote
(42,782 posts)I love bets that I'm guaranteed to win.
While not many heart transplants go to folks in their 70s, there is no formal cut off and of the 2000 plus heart transplants last year, 330 plus went to folk 65 and over (which means I'm pretty sure the number aged seventy or higher is more than "zero" .
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Solly Mack
(90,792 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)he and his entire blood-sucking family should be in federal prison.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)to replace the original?
ohiolover
(5 posts)On the other hand, maybe he has awoken a new man who will do penance for his crimes against humanity.
William769
(55,148 posts)ohiolover
(5 posts)LOL