Report: Caltrans overrode worries about Bay Bridge
Source: AP-Excite
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) The decision by California transportation officials to hire a Chinese company that had never built a bridge to make key components of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge's eastern section ended up being a costly choice in terms of both dollars and confidence in the span's structural integrity, a newspaper reported Sunday.
The Sacramento Bee said an investigation based on its review of more than 100,000 pages of construction records and emails found that the Department of Transportation picked Zhenhua Port Machinery to make the bridge's new signature tower and roadway because officials thought the subcontractor could do the work faster and for $250 million less than the next lowest bidder.
Instead, Caltans ended up paying the Shanghai company millions as a speed incentive even as it spent hundreds of millions more to fix problems with the firm's work, and overruns that exceeded the expected savings and contributed to the bridge's $6.4 billion price tag, the Bee reports (http://bit.ly/1pSY62z).
The newspaper produced a timeline showing that the Chinese company's inexperience with U.S. construction rules became evident early on and that several Caltrans workers expressed concerns with Zhenhua's quality controls and the oversight being provided by the project's prime contractor.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20140608/us-bay-bridge-construction-problems-94867482be.html
What have I been saying about made in China for years?
Except for the company that still makes steam engines for railroads like the scenic line in Boone, IA seen below.
http://www.scenic-valleyrr.com/
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I don't know that Cal Trans had much choice in picking Zhenhua in light of lowest bidder laws for state agencies in CA. But I believe once a contractor proves to be a bad actor, they get put on list that warns state agencies not to hire them even if the lowest bidder. No one should ever hire Zhenhua. No CA agency should hire an out of state (let alone foreign) bridge building company if a CA company can do the job.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)The contracts and law always say "the lowest qualified bidder". The agency has an obligation to investigate whether the bidder can actually do the job in the time specified. It sounds like Cal Trans did not do their job.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Zhenhua promised they could do the job for $250 million less than the next lowest bidder. By submitting a bid to do the job, Zhenhua represented it would do the job competently, with competent subcontractors. According to the Sac Bee, the key problem was the nearly three dozen cracked steel anchor rods --made in Ohio--that failed, costing taxpayers $135 million. It was Zhenhua's duty to inspect those bolts. Cal Trans could not do it pre-bid.
Rather than blaming the victim, we should change the state bidding rules, and go after Zhenhua in court for every penny of overrun on the contract.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)The victims are the taxpayers of CA and I am not blaming them. Cal Tran had the responsibility to make sure the bidder could do the job properly within the appropriate time. They did not do their job. If I bid to do the job for $6 does that mean they have to give the bid to me? You don't know what the law is.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Are you saying Cal Trans has no action against Zhenhua?!
former9thward
(31,997 posts)But the way to do this is due diligence beforehand, not legal actions afterward.
DesertDiamond
(1,616 posts)poor quality work can put countless lives at risk, but anytime. Once again, our tax dollars were sent overseas.
LoisB
(7,203 posts)seabeckind
(1,957 posts)The most telling sentence from the referenced article is:
"Two engineers who worked on the project, one for Caltrans and one employed by a contractor, told a California Senate committee in January that they were reassigned after they voiced objections about Zhenhua's work."
Who overrode their objections? That person is the one at fault.
This is just one more example of the movement in this country away from science and education. Once upon a time this country had confidence in scientists, now the emphasis is on cost and profit. Dreamliner, car recalls, VA benefits, etc. Look anywhere:
crappification
What the hel did anyone think would happen when raygun gave the marketer the seat that the engineer had?
reddread
(6,896 posts)Reagan was simply a front man for those paving their way into absolute power, and those who usurped it.
Simplifying, falsifying and exalting or reviling Reagan alone only gives cover to those who sought its shelter,
and they live on nursing and preserving reputations that should be beyond redemption.
Lets not blame the wrong folks, or let the real culprits off the hook by shouting Reagan every other sentence.
Its a canard.
GHWB and his progeny do appreciate it.
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)Reagan ushered in the age of the beancounter, reinstated cronyism, gutted the regulatory powers of the federal gov't, made anti-trust just a word in a history book, and made science a bad word (along with liberal).
Front man or not, he's the guy who opened the door to let them all in. Without him there would have been no progeny.
Difference between cause and blame.
reddread
(6,896 posts)having it both ways by demanding deeper analysis on the decision makers above those engineers, while
continuing to lionize Reagan, who was for decades simply a perfect spokesperson for money making interests.
Eventually becoming the sock puppet for a crew he had no love for.
Take those people who give GW absolute credit, or Dick Cheney, for that matter.
Those folks behind the curtain just keep on keepin on.
Throd
(7,208 posts)Reading a detailed analysis of the Bay Bridge debacle in yesterday's Sacramento Bee just made me sad and angry.