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villager

(26,001 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:23 PM Jun 2014

Warrantless cellphone location tracking is illegal, US circuit court rules

Source: The Verge

A US Appellate Court has ruled that police must obtain a warrant before collecting cellphone location data, finding that acquiring records of what cell towers a phone connected to and when it was connected to them constitutes a Fourth Amendment search. This ruling, from the Eleventh Circuit, is in opposition to a ruling made nearly a year ago by a separate appellate court. While this ruling won't overturn that one because of their separate jurisdictions, it adds critical precedent to a privacy question that's still far from decided across the country.

In its reasoning, the court notes that while the Fourth Amendment has traditionally been applied to property rights, it's gradually expanded to protect much more, including communications. "In the twentieth century, a second view gradually developed," the court writes, "that is, that the Fourth Amendment guarantee protects the privacy rights of the people without respect to whether the alleged 'search' constituted a trespass against property rights."

In particular, the court cites a Supreme Court ruling that found that tracking a person using a GPS unit installed in their car requires a warrant. Even though the location data of a cell site can only place the person holding the phone within a certain range, the court feels that that range is still quite detailed. In the case at hand, cell site data was used to place the defendant near the location of several robberies.

"While committing a crime is certainly not within a legitimate expectation of privacy, if the cell site location data could place him near those scenes, it could place him near any other scene," the court writes. "There is a reasonable privacy interest in being near the home of a lover, or a dispensary of medication, or a place of worship, or a house of ill repute."

The parallels between this case and the GPS case are not exact, however, and it remains to be seen how most jurisdictions will interpret phone location data. In its ruling last year, the Fifth Circuit said that such data was no more than a business record that belongs to phone carriers and is therefore not protected. It said that people who want to see it protected should lobby Congress to do something about it.

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Read more: http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/11/5801238/warrantless-cellphone-location-tracking-illegal-us-court-rules

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Warrantless cellphone location tracking is illegal, US circuit court rules (Original Post) villager Jun 2014 OP
Stingray Device??? billhicks76 Jun 2014 #1
Good question....nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #8
More Coverage billhicks76 Jun 2014 #9
The SCOTUS will clear this all up when it gets to them. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #2
Scalia (surprisingly) usually goes awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #6
I don't think it is any doubt there needs to be warrants to collect the records Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #3
WWTFFD? smallcat88 Jun 2014 #4
You shoud read up on what actually happened during the Revolutionary War. I'd recommend 24601 Jun 2014 #7
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #5
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
1. Stingray Device???
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jun 2014

What about cops who use a Stingray Device purchased from the Harris Corp? It pretends to be a cell phone tower and intercepts data. Shouldn't that be breaking and entering?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
9. More Coverage
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jun 2014

Of these devices is needed. Peace officers have become nothing more than narcs and snoops.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. I don't think it is any doubt there needs to be warrants to collect the records
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jun 2014

cell phone records.

"A US Appellate Court has ruled that police must obtain a warrant before collecting cellphone location data, finding that acquiring records of what cell towers a phone connected to and when it was connected to them constitutes a Fourth Amendment search. "

When warrants are issued then they are legal, this is normal for police departments to acquire warrants when getting the records.

24601

(3,961 posts)
7. You shoud read up on what actually happened during the Revolutionary War. I'd recommend
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jun 2014

starting with Washington's Spies: The Story of America's First Spy Ring by Alexander Rose.

http://www.amazon.com/Washingtons-Spies-Story-Americas-First/dp/0553383299

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