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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:00 PM Jun 2014

Colorado Governor Disowns High-Capacity Magazine Ban He Signed

Source: TPM

ERIC LACH – JUNE 19, 2014, 12:33 PM EDT

The most disputed gun control measure passed in response to the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado apparently no longer has the support of the governor who signed it into law.

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) recently told a group of sheriffs that if he and his staff had known ahead of time how much "commotion" a ban on high-capacity magazines would cause, "we probably would have thought about it twice." The Democrat blamed a staff member for making a "commitment" on his behalf that all but forced him to sign the ban, and he said that he never actually expected the measure to pass the state legislature. Hickenlooper also said that after "all the kerfuffle," he went back and got "some facts that we should have had at the beginning."

Hickenlooper's comments came during his appearance Friday at the biennial meeting to the County Sheriffs of Colorado. Dozens of Colorado sheriffs joined together last year to sue Hickenlooper over the gun control measures he signed, which included banning magazines that can hold more than 15 rounds and requiring background checks for gun sales. Hickenlooper's comments to the sheriffs on Friday had already created controversy, after one sheriff posted on Facebook that the governor had "apologized to the Sheriffs for not listening to them prior to passing the new gun bills." On Wednesday, a video of a portion of Hickenlooper's remarks was uploaded to YouTube by a conservative political video website called Revealing Politics.

"On the magazine ban, you know there has not been one arrest in the entire state, on that statute," one attendee can be heard telling Hickenlooper. "So to me, that just proves what a worthless statute that really is. You know, if we have a DUI law, and you can qualify that, and quantify that, and you can [say] we've had this many people arrested throughout the state, thousands -- that law is working. When we don't have any arrests on a high capacity magazine ban, just proves to me that it was a worthless piece of legislation and it caused a lot of angst for no reason."

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hickenlooper-high-capacity-magazine-video

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Colorado Governor Disowns High-Capacity Magazine Ban He Signed (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
Walking back progress for the sake of his own career. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #1
He is certainly turning into more and more of a despicable chickenshit villager Jun 2014 #2
fucking coward frylock Jun 2014 #3
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Sounds like a GOPer. nt valerief Jun 2014 #4
Spineless and craven Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #5
Ah, but Frackenlooper is miles ahead of the nearest loony R... Timez Squarez Jun 2014 #9
Yeah, but have you seen the other guy? politicat Jun 2014 #13
Hick isn't getting primaried. He's definitely a lesser of several evils. Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #18
Oh, I do. politicat Jun 2014 #19
*sigh* Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #20
You're too late to undo the damage to CO Democrats, Governor... derby378 Jun 2014 #6
If there have been no arrests because of the law, then Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #7
It cost several Colorado Dems their seats NickB79 Jun 2014 #15
Except that's not where the article seems to suggest the angst is coming from. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #16
Idiot. Timez Squarez Jun 2014 #8
Way to take a stand, Governor Peepants. Arkana Jun 2014 #10
OFFS sakabatou Jun 2014 #11
I really don't get this. rickyhall Jun 2014 #12
70+??? derby378 Jun 2014 #14
Cops understand what the real threat is hack89 Jun 2014 #17
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
5. Spineless and craven
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jun 2014

You pretty much just lost your next election. The Right NEVER forgives a gun law, and the Left now know your a pathetic opportunist with no real convictions.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
9. Ah, but Frackenlooper is miles ahead of the nearest loony R...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jun 2014

Primary's next week, and they're mudslinging each other in a four way dance. Kopp, Gessler, Beauprez and Tancredo. All useless and will not win against Frackenlooper.

He's term limited after this election, so we'll get someone who's more to the left of this Turd Way moron.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
13. Yeah, but have you seen the other guy?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jun 2014

or the Four Stooges, as they're known in this house.

Hick isn't getting primaried. He's definitely a lesser of several evils.

I've held my nose and voted for him several times. It's not that he's bad at the job -- he's actually an effective administrator -- he's just not much of a Democrat, even by western states standards. OTOH, he is pretty good on civil rights and the social safety net, and in such a way that he doesn't draw a lot of fire.

I wish Mike Miles would try for the job again.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
18. Hick isn't getting primaried. He's definitely a lesser of several evils.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:03 AM
Jun 2014

Which means he is still evil.

I understand the conundrum, but people do need to remember that. If you ever meet him, say it to his face. It is unlikely to make a difference, but hey, its on record.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
19. Oh, I do.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:33 AM
Jun 2014

He hears it from us People's Republc types regularly. Of course, we're leftie, latte, limousine libruls with our damn ivory towers and bikes and ideals and stuff, so whether it helps is questionable.

But since Boulder county is also his donor base...

He really should stop drinking the fracking fluid. I don't think it's good for his cognition.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
20. *sigh*
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:35 AM
Jun 2014

Yeah, I know.

It is rather aggravating to be told by right-wingers that the government and the media is just overflowing with hippies, but I can't seem to find any.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
6. You're too late to undo the damage to CO Democrats, Governor...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jun 2014

...but this one's for you, nonetheless:

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
7. If there have been no arrests because of the law, then
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jun 2014

exactly what was the 'lot of angst' about it? Apparently it was a lot of 'worthless angst'.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
15. It cost several Colorado Dems their seats
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jun 2014

So that's likely where the "worthless angst" comes from: it hurt the Colorado Democratic party with nothing to show for it otherwise.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
16. Except that's not where the article seems to suggest the angst is coming from.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:35 PM
Jun 2014

Unless I misread it, the 'angst' is from the law enforcement officers who were against gun control legislation, not people who were particularly worried about the Democratic party.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
8. Idiot.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 03:51 PM
Jun 2014

Fortunately, Frackenlooper is term-limited after his next election in 2014. We'll get someone who's pro-gun control, progressive and will put people ahead before corporations and idiotic sheriffs with very tiny penises...

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
12. I really don't get this.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 06:23 PM
Jun 2014

Why would law enforcement want people who shoot at them to have 70+ clips in assault rifles? Don't seem smart to me. They got glocks because the badguys had them. Cops use to carry Police Specials 38s with 6 rounds. And they tried NOT to kill people.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
14. 70+???
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jun 2014

The average AR or AK mag holds 20-30 rounds at most. Even the ones that trained, bona fide soldiers carry.

If you're thinking of the Beta mag that the Aurora shooter used, I don't see many soldiers carrying those. However, if you're in North Korea (the nexus of evil and dumbass), Kim Jong-un's personal bodyguards carry these freaky little dealybobbers:

http://www.armamentresearch.com/north-korean-helical-ak-magazines/

hack89

(39,171 posts)
17. Cops understand what the real threat is
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:36 PM
Jun 2014

And it is not semiautomatic rifles - it is handguns. More importantly, the governor pissed off the sheriffs by ignoring them - which makes sense considering they disagree with him on gun control.

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