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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 05:12 AM Mar 2012

Elderly couple abandons their home after address is posted on Twitter as that of George Zimmerman

Source: The Orlando Sentinel.

A school-cafeteria lunch lady and her husband have received hate mail, unwanted visits from reporters and fearful inquiries from neighbors — all because their Sanford-area address is being disseminated on Twitter as belonging to Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman, her son said late Tuesday.

The woman, 70, who has a heart condition, and her husband, 72, have temporarily moved to a hotel to avoid the spotlight and possible danger, said son Chip Humble of Longwood.

The woman has another son named William George Zimmerman who lived with her in 1995 and still lives in Central Florida. He is no relation to George Zimmerman, 28, who killed 17-year-old Trayvon Feb. 26, sparking national outrage and international interest.

....

Zimmerman traced the tweets — which he said have been retweeted by actor-director Spike Lee — to a man in California. Zimmerman has implored the man to stop and said he received this response, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" and an obscenity.


Read more: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-27/news/os-trayvon-martin-wrong-zimmerman-20120327_1_tweets-heart-condition-twitter

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Elderly couple abandons their home after address is posted on Twitter as that of George Zimmerman (Original Post) PoliticAverse Mar 2012 OP
That's nice :sarcasm: Confusious Mar 2012 #1
Spike Lee should buy them a new house. Richardo Mar 2012 #2
I hope he at least pays their hotel bill. GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #56
If Zimmerman really wanted to stop this shit he'd turn himself in & confess to murder. baldguy Mar 2012 #3
Well that is one for the illiterate and delusional.... whistler162 Mar 2012 #4
That is beside the point here. The point here is the vigilante actions by wackos... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #15
Disagree davidthegnome Mar 2012 #55
Oh, please. Get a grip. This is not high crime & conspiracy here. This guy didn't plan Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #58
K&R drm604 Mar 2012 #5
I hope Spike Lee says something to stop the harassment of this couple lunatica Mar 2012 #6
Lee needs to say something....and do something magical thyme Mar 2012 #8
Spike Lee is a racist asshole. Frank Cannon Mar 2012 #10
Please read the article, Spike Lee did NOT do the hate E-mail happyslug Mar 2012 #30
Lee retweeted it. drm604 Mar 2012 #43
Lee has over 245,000 followers on Twitter RZM Mar 2012 #54
Spike Lee won't say anything.. MicaelS Mar 2012 #50
He has apologized siligut Mar 2012 #66
Sounds to me like a retraction and appology is in order... Earth_First Mar 2012 #7
This is what happens when there's a selective cover-up of the facts by the media, incl. the Orl Sent leveymg Mar 2012 #9
Maybe, but this is assholish behavior on the part of Lee leftofcool Mar 2012 #11
The guy sending the address around, and Lee, are responsible for their own actions. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #16
What in terms of real facts are available... ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #32
Posting nothing is far less harmful than posting incorrect information slackmaster Mar 2012 #48
Nobody is specifically right 100%, but the corporate media has been feeding misreps leveymg Mar 2012 #57
I'm very sorry for the elderly couple, for Trayvon Martin, and for his family. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2012 #12
OMG that is horrible mactime Mar 2012 #13
I rarely think posting information like someone's address is a good idea deutsey Mar 2012 #14
I think this is why DU has rules against posting people's personal information. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #17
Spike Lee's next movie: "Post The Right Thing." n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #18
*snort* pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #19
Thanks Spike Lee. You Mow-Ron chrisa Mar 2012 #20
Was it the same address that was allowed by jury to remain posted here on DU Javaman Mar 2012 #21
Please do not add to this mess loyalkydem Mar 2012 #22
You didn't find it because he pulled it, then it was re-tweeted again and again. leftofcool Mar 2012 #25
Do we have actual evidence that Spike Lee is involved at all? Tweeted this at all? yardwork Mar 2012 #28
See The Smoking Gun article and screenshot PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #40
Ok, thanks. That looks like evidence to me. Spike Lee needs to step up. yardwork Mar 2012 #42
Per the article, it has been removed Eyerish Mar 2012 #26
That's easy to say. Is there any proof that Lee is involved at all? yardwork Mar 2012 #29
Plenty. former9thward Mar 2012 #60
Please take the time to gather facts BEFORE forming an opinion joeglow3 Mar 2012 #27
The Smoking Gun has a screenshot of Spike Lee's retweet... PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #39
Spike Lee should have known better than to do that. Beacool Mar 2012 #23
That's the worst part. Quantess Mar 2012 #31
Frankly, I think that it was wrong even if it had been the correct house. Beacool Mar 2012 #44
has that idiot, Spike Lee, apologized? WI_DEM Mar 2012 #24
No, and I doubt that he will. NaturalHigh Mar 2012 #35
What a moron. Travelman Mar 2012 #33
I couldn't agree more. NaturalHigh Mar 2012 #34
Didn't the Black Panther guy who put a bounty Beacool Mar 2012 #45
Not for that, but yes, he was arrested.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #46
Oh, OK. Beacool Mar 2012 #51
New Black Panther, part of a tiny hate group. Not the original Black Panther Party. yardwork Mar 2012 #47
Yep, not the ones in the 60s. Beacool Mar 2012 #52
The Orlando Sentinel. loyalkydem Mar 2012 #36
I concluded that Spike Lee was a jackass years ago. Throd Mar 2012 #37
What exactly is the disappointment? Dr. Strange Mar 2012 #67
The Smoking Gun story on the issue... PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #38
Lynch mobs aren't a reliable way of punishing the correct person slackmaster Mar 2012 #41
Poor couple. BlueIris Mar 2012 #49
I hope they stay safe too. polichick Mar 2012 #53
how irresponsible. Mysfyt Mar 2012 #59
Followup Orlando Sentinel article (couple hires law firm): PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #61
that couple just won the lottery ....pay up Spike! IamK Mar 2012 #62
Tweet the right thing..... n/t IamK Mar 2012 #63
Followup: Spike Lee apologizes... PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #64
K&R n/t The Northerner Mar 2012 #65
Followup: Spike Lee settles with family forced to flee home PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #68

GoCubsGo

(32,096 posts)
56. I hope he at least pays their hotel bill.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:59 PM
Mar 2012

And, compensates them for pain and suffering. People with heart conditions sure don't need that kind of shit, not that healthy people do, either.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
3. If Zimmerman really wanted to stop this shit he'd turn himself in & confess to murder.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:23 AM
Mar 2012

But then, he just a coward who played at being a cop.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
4. Well that is one for the illiterate and delusional....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:29 AM
Mar 2012

don't bother to rtead the story just knee jerk a reaction!

Not the correct Zimmerman and this type of childishness willn't stop even with the correct Zimmerman's conviction.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. That is beside the point here. The point here is the vigilante actions by wackos...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:20 AM
Mar 2012

including Spike Lee.

All we have to do is wait for the upcoming murder, if this continues.

This is all a matter for the law enforcement and justice system. It's nobody's business, except the law, where Zimmerman the shooter is. And Zimmerman the shooter was not necessarily guilty of "murder." In fact, he probably wasn't. If he had been out to kill Martin, he wouldn't have called the police.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
55. Disagree
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:53 PM
Mar 2012

" If he had been out to kill Martin, he wouldn't have called the police."

Calling the police makes it look better, he can then claim he attempted to handle the matter legally. Also, Zimmerman was told by police NOT to approach Martin, he did so anyay. Had his interest truly been in working with he authorities, it stands to reason that he would have been inclined to obey them. (sarcasm) But then again, what can one do when dangerous looking individuals wielding skittles and wearing hoods come to their neighborhoods?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
58. Oh, please. Get a grip. This is not high crime & conspiracy here. This guy didn't plan
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:30 PM
Mar 2012

anything. No way this jerk could even think that craftily to plan a murder in advance and then call the cops to make it look like he wasn't going to murder someone? Seriously? You've gone off the deep end.

Looks like he was trigger happy, there was an altercation of some sort, and he shot without thinking or in reaction or in the heat of the moment.

There is no evidence whatsoever of intent to kill someone. None. Don't let your emotions take your eyes away from the evidence.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I hope Spike Lee says something to stop the harassment of this couple
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:11 AM
Mar 2012

I sure as hell would. I'd apologize sincerely and do whatever I could to stop this. Being mistaken for the country's latest pariah has to be seriously terrifying.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
8. Lee needs to say something....and do something
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:17 AM
Mar 2012

It's more than terrifying. It's dangerous. Here is an elderly couple forced out of their homes. He should pay for their hotel at the very least. Buy them a new home would not be overkill, either. They don't dare move back and they probably wouldn't even be able to sell their current home. Who would buy it, knowing they could be targeted?

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
10. Spike Lee is a racist asshole.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:31 AM
Mar 2012

And apparently, by this latest action, he's not very bright, either. I wouldn't expect Mr. Lee to do anything about this.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
30. Please read the article, Spike Lee did NOT do the hate E-mail
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:58 AM
Mar 2012

Spike Lee's involvement was to post it, then the man who did the hate comment expanded on it.

Zimmerman traced the tweets — which he said have been retweeted by actor-director Spike Lee — to a man in California. Zimmerman has implored the man to stop and said he received this response, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" and an obscenity

Thus it is clear this second person is the person who is spreading the address on the Net, NOT Spike Lee.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
43. Lee retweeted it.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:22 AM
Mar 2012

I'm sure that Lee has a much larger Twitter following than the original tweeter, so he's the most responsible for it spreading.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
50. Spike Lee won't say anything..
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
Mar 2012

He's an arrogant little shit, and like all arrogant shits, never apologizes. The only way to hurt Spike Lee is in the in the pocketbook. I hope this family sues his sorry ass for $100,000,000, and makes him eat crow in fucking court. I'd love to see some lawyer tearing Spike Lee three or four brand new assholes on the witness stand.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
66. He has apologized
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:38 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501366_162-57406385/spike-lee-apologizes-for-retweeting-wrong-address/

SANFORD, Fla. — Spike Lee has apologized to a Florida couple who say they were forced to leave their home when a Twitter posting that the director helped spread listed their address as that of a man who shot an unarmed teenager.


snip


Lee tweeted late Wednesday: "I Deeply Apologize To The McClain Family For Retweeting Their Address. It Was A Mistake. Please Leave The McClain's In Peace."


I hope he does reimburse this family for all of the trouble.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. This is what happens when there's a selective cover-up of the facts by the media, incl. the Orl Sent
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:26 AM
Mar 2012

The Sentinel has done a terrible job of covering the real facts in this case. Zimmerman, the son of a Judge, committed a violent felony assault on a police officer and two domestic violence charges but the state attorney dropped the charges. Why was this guy allowed to walk and obtain a gun and be given the opportunity to assault people again? What role did the improper influence on the prosecutor have on this? Why was Zimmerman allowed to walk again by the State's Attorney, after he killed someone? Those are the question that the corporate media should have unearthed many days ago, but haven't.

The cover-up is why amateurs have had to step in to dig out the facts, and some of them have gotten it wrong or passed on bad information, which is inevitable.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. The guy sending the address around, and Lee, are responsible for their own actions.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:24 AM
Mar 2012

It's not the media's fault. That guy didn't "have to" send an address around, knowing no doubt that someone might go to the house and murder the resident. And Lee certainly didn't "have to" forward it multiple times.

The FBI and DOJ are investigating. Looks to me like some people just want someone killed. It's not justice they're after. They don't even know all the facts. Neither do you or I. Some people are just angry because they think Trayvon was profiled due to his race.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
32. What in terms of real facts are available...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:20 AM
Mar 2012

The state attorney is sitting on them and and the web abhors a vacuum.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
48. Posting nothing is far less harmful than posting incorrect information
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:49 AM
Mar 2012

Or, it's better to be generally right than specifically wrong.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
57. Nobody is specifically right 100%, but the corporate media has been feeding misreps
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mar 2012

and misleading part-truths since the beginning. That is certainly the case for the Orlando Sentinel that did not report the felony charge or that the father is a Judge. They've been minimizing and spinning. There should be some outrage at that, shouldn't there? After all, that was almost certainly an intentional omission, not an unintended error in transmission.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
14. I rarely think posting information like someone's address is a good idea
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:05 AM
Mar 2012

Aside from the potential of vigilantism and violent repercussions, I think the possibility of posting the wrong fricking information is way too high especially in these post first/ask questions later times.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
21. Was it the same address that was allowed by jury to remain posted here on DU
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:08 AM
Mar 2012

yesterday?

update: I just checked and it seemed that smarter heads pervailed. The post was pulled.

loyalkydem

(1,678 posts)
22. Please do not add to this mess
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:15 AM
Mar 2012

This story is a ginned up attempt by the Daily Caller and Michelle Mulkin to muddy up the waters. I spent 20 minuets going over Spike's old tweets all the way back to the 16th and the ONLY address on his twitter feed is that asking Martin supporters to send the Chief of Police skittles. We're supposed to be democrats, We need to support Spike instead of attacking him. I just had to come back to defend him because it seems like all you want to do is condemn him.

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
28. Do we have actual evidence that Spike Lee is involved at all? Tweeted this at all?
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:52 AM
Mar 2012

All I see is a media report (and we know how accurate they are /sarcasm) stating that Spike Lee retweeted the address. Is there corroborating evidence?

In a way I hope that Spike Lee is involved, because I believe he will "do the right thing" and help pay for this elderly couple's expenses.

If it it turns out to be some anonymous asshole who is tweeting this, then there's no recourse.

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
42. Ok, thanks. That looks like evidence to me. Spike Lee needs to step up.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
Mar 2012

Buying a new house (if they want to move) would not be unreasonable. Lee can afford it. He needs to make amends, no question.

Eyerish

(1,495 posts)
26. Per the article, it has been removed
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:27 AM
Mar 2012

"Lee's tweet has been removed, but it continues to be retweeted"

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
23. Spike Lee should have known better than to do that.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:17 AM
Mar 2012

Vigilante justice is not the solution. Zimmerman should be arrested and tried.

Besides, look at what they did? It's not even the correct house.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
44. Frankly, I think that it was wrong even if it had been the correct house.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:28 AM
Mar 2012

Do we know whether Zimmerman lives alone? He may live with other family members. Why should they pay for his actions?

One young man's death si enough bloodshed, it's wrong to incite more of the same.

Travelman

(708 posts)
33. What a moron.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:22 AM
Mar 2012

Yet another bottom-feeder ginning up mob violence under the guise of "justice." Every one of these people cranking up mobs, from Spike Lee to the New Black Panther Party are absolutely no better than the lynch mobs of days past.

Every damned one of them ought to be publicly shamed.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
34. I couldn't agree more.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:41 AM
Mar 2012

If anything happens to these people, everyone involved in posting their address online should be prosecuted.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
51. Oh, OK.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:11 PM
Mar 2012

Thanks for the explanation. I heard on the radio that he had been arrested, but I didn't get what for.

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
47. New Black Panther, part of a tiny hate group. Not the original Black Panther Party.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:33 AM
Mar 2012

Real Black Panthers wouldn't have done something like that. Probably.

loyalkydem

(1,678 posts)
36. The Orlando Sentinel.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:43 AM
Mar 2012

is rarely known for getting ANY facts right in anything that it reports. It seems to me that the majority of you in this thread have already formed your opinion about Spike Lee. It's clear to me that the majority of you need to be doing some soul searching. This is the last thing I will say on this subject. You all greatly disappoint me.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
37. I concluded that Spike Lee was a jackass years ago.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:47 AM
Mar 2012

As far as a lot of folks getting all flappy-armed about something before all the information is verified...well, that is just another day on an internet discussion board.

Dr. Strange

(25,926 posts)
67. What exactly is the disappointment?
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:18 PM
Mar 2012

You think the Sentinel just made this up? That this couple is just exaggerating what they're going through?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
41. Lynch mobs aren't a reliable way of punishing the correct person
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:17 AM
Mar 2012

That's why I don't participate in lynch mobs.

Mysfyt

(50 posts)
59. how irresponsible.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:46 PM
Mar 2012

even if it had been the right address, his family shouldnt be exposed and possibly harmed for the actions of zimmerman.

people need to stop encouraging vigilantism. it is not at all helpful to the boy who was killed or his parents who have stated they wanted to deal with this peacefully. and putting a bounty on his head..wtf are they thinking?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
64. Followup: Spike Lee apologizes...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:23 AM
Mar 2012

From Spike Lee's twitter account ( https://twitter.com/?tw_e=screenname&tw_i=185177177652862977&tw_p=tweetembed#!/SpikeLee )

"I Deeply Apologize To The McClain Family For Retweeting Their Address.It Was A Mistake.Please Leave The McClain's In Peace.Justice In Court"

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
68. Followup: Spike Lee settles with family forced to flee home
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 09:52 PM
Mar 2012

Spike Lee has reached an agreement with the Florida couple forced to flee their home after the film director retweeted their home address and they fled to a hotel to avoid problems associated with the shooting of Trayvon Martin, it was announced Thursday.

...

“The McClains’ claim is fully resolved,” Matt Morgan, their attorney, said in an email. “Mr. Lee personally called them to give a very heartfelt apology. Further, he agreed to compensate them for their loss and the disruption to their lives.

“The McClains were very moved by Mr. Lee's apology,” Morgan said. “They would like the Lee family to be left in peace,” Morgan said.

Read the rest: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story

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