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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:01 PM Jul 2014

Bundy-Style Militia Leader In Texas: ‘Get Back … Or You Will Be Shot’

Source: TPM

DYLAN SCOTT – JULY 10, 2014, 3:12 PM EDT

An activist who is rallying a Bundy Ranch-style militia to the Texas border to address the ongoing crisis there reportedly released a YouTube video in which he said those crossing illegally would be warned: "Get back across the border or you will be shot."

Operation Secure Our Border, with its own Facebook page, is being organized by members of the "Patriot" movement along with Oathkeepers and Three-Percenters, according to the San Antonio Express News. Those are some of the same militia groups that came to Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's defense earlier this year.

The Express News and The Monitor in McAllen, Texas, both reported on a YouTube video featuring Chris Davis, who has been identified as the commander of the militia, in which he apparently explained how the border would be secured.

"You see an illegal. You point your gun dead at him, right between his eyes, and you say, 'Get back across the border or you will be shot,'" Davis said in the video, according to the reports.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/chris-davis-texas-militia-border-youtube

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Bundy-Style Militia Leader In Texas: ‘Get Back … Or You Will Be Shot’ (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2014 OP
white, racist, republican, christian. whatta great combo nt msongs Jul 2014 #1
How Soon They Forget grilled onions Jul 2014 #62
and if they dont? rtracey Jul 2014 #2
no, his ilk will say he was protecting his country. What a patriot. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #5
Minute men, not minutemen . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2014 #30
Right-wing Second Amendment absolutist gun culture billh58 Jul 2014 #3
The Little Texas... ReRe Jul 2014 #4
no kidding. all these idiots do is flap their diseased gums.. frylock Jul 2014 #23
Well... ReRe Jul 2014 #35
this movement wont last long down in South Texas southmost Jul 2014 #6
Last time it was the so-called Minutemen okasha Jul 2014 #40
Just another day in gun culture. nt onehandle Jul 2014 #7
Gun culture it is; JDPriestly Jul 2014 #38
Until the one coming over the border ... aggiesal Jul 2014 #8
good point.. there could be some gun on gun action. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #33
WHEN will the Feds DO something about these people. Make them stand their ground. n/t broadcaster75201 Jul 2014 #9
And If He Shoots, Sir, It Will Be Murder The Magistrate Jul 2014 #10
Blah blah blah blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #11
OK, everybody. I'm prepared for a barrage of bricks but I know German history JDPriestly Jul 2014 #12
Notice they don't say "if you see someone crossing the border." They say "if you see an illegal." arcane1 Jul 2014 #13
Don't fear the Godwin Effect fbc Jul 2014 #15
Our own version of the SA PeoViejo Jul 2014 #22
It is similar but this is not Germany in the 1920s. Some states may fall for that baloney - like jwirr Jul 2014 #28
No brick from me. PADemD Jul 2014 #43
I share that same concern, very reminiscent. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #52
Pointing a gun at someone in Texas is aggravated assault n/t albino65 Jul 2014 #14
This would be the equivalent to telling the man from Mars to "take me to your leader" when the kids Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #16
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #48
Too bad that couple who supported Bundy and shot two police officers aren't still sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #17
Like the Minutemen, dougg Jul 2014 #18
They NEVER lose the opportunity to threaten with guns NastyRiffraff Jul 2014 #19
Lord what if they shoot some small kids who don't speak English??? redstatebluegirl Jul 2014 #20
Arrest the asshole world wide wally Jul 2014 #21
Way too much is tolerated in the US with these violent assholes! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #53
it would be real unfortunate if they were to get in a firefight with members of MS-13.. frylock Jul 2014 #24
Assuming they even get to the border (doubtful) okasha Jul 2014 #41
Including the vegetation! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #49
Oh, yeah. okasha Jul 2014 #50
I don't know Texas; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #51
Awesome! okasha Jul 2014 #54
And they pack gunzzz, right? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #55
That would be a better guard critter than a rottie. okasha Jul 2014 #56
He made to adulthood and didn't know to not screw around with cactus? Damn... freshwest Jul 2014 #63
That and/or the Zetas. The meetup was to be in Laredo. The Zetas are based in Neuvo Laredo. freshwest Jul 2014 #59
He's a danger to others dickthegrouch Jul 2014 #25
These gun toters have no real authority to shot anyone. If they do it is murder. Just like the jwirr Jul 2014 #26
What if it isn't an illegal? Ilsa Jul 2014 #27
This is likely to be a lot of talk and not a lot of action. amandabeech Jul 2014 #29
While I support the first amendment wholeheartedly, sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #31
Quick. Go Seize Bundy. dbackjon Jul 2014 #32
This country really is sliding into complete chaos. Brigid Jul 2014 #34
It certainly is, these nuts are out of control and it seems little is done to rein them in. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #57
shooting children jonjensen Jul 2014 #36
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #37
The authorities BETTER do something to stop them!! DesertDiamond Jul 2014 #39
Chris Davis may want to step back a minute... jmowreader Jul 2014 #42
Bagger terrorists....don't be "that guy" and workinclasszero Jul 2014 #44
VIDEO: The Idiocracy in full bloom: freshwest Jul 2014 #45
I certainly don't want to see anyone killed Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #46
I suspect, this comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #47
Prohibition of Drugs, Prostitution, Gambling, all have Official " Intentions " orpupilofnature57 Jul 2014 #58
Yours is a much more sophisticated variant of my reaction salin Jul 2014 #60
You can swindle some citizens all you want... Orsino Jul 2014 #61

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
62. How Soon They Forget
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jul 2014

Imagine how different this country would have been if Native Americans had the weapon capabilities to stand at Plymouth Rock(or assorted ship landings) and tell the Pilgrims "get back in your ships and go back where you came from or you'll be shot!"

billh58

(6,635 posts)
3. Right-wing Second Amendment absolutist gun culture
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:09 PM
Jul 2014

personified: guns are the solution to all problems. Larry Pratt and Wayne LaPierre are as proud as they can be of the Teahadist militia movements springing up around the country. American red necked racist terrorists on the march...

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
4. The Little Texas...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jul 2014

... Whiskey Rebellion.

I wish they'd hurry up with the show. Eating way too much popcorn.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
23. no kidding. all these idiots do is flap their diseased gums..
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jul 2014

get on with the "revolution" already.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
35. Well...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:57 PM
Jul 2014

... you know what happened with the Whiskey Rebellion. Old George set a precedent right then and there. But then again, the Feds backed down in Nevada at the Bundy ranch a couple months ago. I guar-on-tee you, if it was a bunch of lefties making these threats, their arses would be in jail or dead.

southmost

(759 posts)
6. this movement wont last long down in South Texas
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jul 2014

the population down here is 90%+ Hispanic/latino/indigenous

doubt these fools last down here....

okasha

(11,573 posts)
40. Last time it was the so-called Minutemen
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:08 AM
Jul 2014

who tried this stunt.

They spent their entire time in Texas holed up in a run-down motel in Carrizo Springs, a wide spot on Hwy. 83 about 80 miles north of Laredo, guzzling beer and thumping their chests.

I'll be surprised if this batch of morons even crosses the Texas state line.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
38. Gun culture it is;
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jul 2014

The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - there are 89 guns for every 100 Americans, compared to 6 in England and Wales.

And the murder figures themselves are astounding for Brits used to around 550 murders per year. In 2011 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

aggiesal

(8,921 posts)
8. Until the one coming over the border ...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:16 PM
Jul 2014

has more fire power.
This guy is going to end up dead.
Lots of drug trafficking through this area.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
33. good point.. there could be some gun on gun action.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jul 2014

That's ok with me but I don't want any innocent people
getting shot and I'm not convinced these guys wouldn't
use humans for target practice.

The Magistrate

(95,250 posts)
10. And If He Shoots, Sir, It Will Be Murder
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jul 2014

The sick fantasies of these people cannot be allowed any longer to influence national policy.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. OK, everybody. I'm prepared for a barrage of bricks but I know German history
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jul 2014

pretty well, and I am going to say it.

This reminds me of how the NAZIs started in Germany.

OK. Got at it. But I stand by what I have said.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. Notice they don't say "if you see someone crossing the border." They say "if you see an illegal."
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

Language is everything. These people are not being regarded as humans.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
22. Our own version of the SA
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:46 PM
Jul 2014

We know what happened to them when the Party realized how dangerous they were.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. It is similar but this is not Germany in the 1920s. Some states may fall for that baloney - like
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:16 PM
Jul 2014

Texas - but it will take more than this to turn the whole USA.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. This would be the equivalent to telling the man from Mars to "take me to your leader" when the kids
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jul 2014

Are so young and do not speak English. Brains is not one of their strong suits.

sinkingfeeling

(51,469 posts)
17. Too bad that couple who supported Bundy and shot two police officers aren't still
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jul 2014

around. They'd have a field day.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. They NEVER lose the opportunity to threaten with guns
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jul 2014

Never. Makes them think their tiny wee-wees are big swinging dicks.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
20. Lord what if they shoot some small kids who don't speak English???
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jul 2014

Why can't they do something with these guys who open threaten murder?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
24. it would be real unfortunate if they were to get in a firefight with members of MS-13..
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:23 AM - Edit history (1)

real unfortunate.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
41. Assuming they even get to the border (doubtful)
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jul 2014

and survive long enough to encounter a gunman. As a friend of mine is fond of saying, most living things in South Texas are designed to hurt you.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
51. I don't know Texas; but ...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jul 2014

Arizona played it on TV.

And Arizona has some really bad plants that have taken the evolutionary leap of going on the offensive!

Jumping Cholla Cactus:

okasha

(11,573 posts)
54. Awesome!
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jul 2014

We don't have that one, but we try to compensate with thorns on just about everything but blubonnets.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
55. And they pack gunzzz, right? eom.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jul 2014

I had a run in with a Jumping Cholla ... I was, I swear, a good two feet from it; I turned my back and wham ... a back full of cacti.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
63. He made to adulthood and didn't know to not screw around with cactus? Damn...
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jul 2014

Should definitely not be armed. He's a danger to himself and others. That is one sad little video there.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
59. That and/or the Zetas. The meetup was to be in Laredo. The Zetas are based in Neuvo Laredo.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jul 2014

They are the most militarized cartel in Latin America, with government style weaponry and training. But they don't bother to talk things out, theyjust kill people to create an atmosphere of terror. And they operate on the American side, too.

dickthegrouch

(3,183 posts)
25. He's a danger to others
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jul 2014

IMHO if he can be proven to have said this, he can be put on a psychiatric hold (hopefully for life) and have his ability to carry a gun taken away because of the psychiatric hold.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. These gun toters have no real authority to shot anyone. If they do it is murder. Just like the
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:12 PM
Jul 2014

murder of the police officers in Vegas. We cannot allow this kind of behavior to continue.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
29. This is likely to be a lot of talk and not a lot of action.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jul 2014

I certainly do not condone these people, but their barks are usually bigger than their bites.

The Texas Department of Corrections is not exactly a place where any of them would want to reside.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
31. While I support the first amendment wholeheartedly,
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:30 PM
Jul 2014

calling on others to go shoot "illegals" should be considered a felony punishable by 15 years in jail!

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
36. shooting children
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jul 2014

These krypto nazi's have already been killing the children. On the network news again last night they showed children dying in the fields of brook county texas. The people down their call them the killing fields as over 4000 children are in un marked graves in just one cemetery down their. These fiends have been emptying water bottles left for the children so they don't die of thirst! A million jewish children were killed in the holocaust please don't let this happen again. Nearly 100,000 children have died trying to cross the border or in mexico trying to get here in the last few years on the death trains. It is horrific to see on the news video of these children falling off the trains and being killed.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
42. Chris Davis may want to step back a minute...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:32 AM
Jul 2014

The national pastime of Texas is Executing Murderers, and they have no problem with making white men take that long final walk.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
45. VIDEO: The Idiocracy in full bloom:
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Militia Efforts to Converge at the Border Fizzle Out

...And then there was militia enthusiast Dyna DeRien, who posts at YouTube as 1HellOnHeels and calls herself the “CEO and founder” of “the American Anti-Federalist Patriot Party.”

After Davis yanked all his videos from the Internet, hers were the only videos remaining on the web describing the militia plan of attack and the motivation for turning out on the border.

“We’re tired of those SOBs in Washington D.C. bringing all these illegals into our country and just spreading ‘em out with all their diseases all over the place,” she said.

A day later, that rant had been taken down, too.


But it was caught by Hatewatch first:



http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/07/10/militia-efforts-to-converge-at-the-border-fizzle-out/

'Well, anyways...'

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)
46. I certainly don't want to see anyone killed
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jul 2014

But there's also the fact that we're going to keep playing this game of chicken until it does. And until it does play out in a big, bloody and brutal way, it's not going to change one way or the other. Either it happens and we as a country revel in it and slide further into chaos or the whole thing causes a huge natural cultural shaming effect and we enact some real changes. I don't know which will happen but I really want to get this event going so we can actually make a real choice.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
47. I suspect, this comment ...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:46 PM
Jul 2014
U.S. Customs and Border Protection told the Express News it does not "endorse or support any private group or organization from taking matters into their own hands as it could have disastrous personal and public safety consequences."


We soon become:

U.S. Customs and Border Protection told the Express News it does not "endorse or support any private group or organization from taking matters into their own hands as it could have disastrous personal and public safety consequences. Further, should the efforts of private citizens to engage result in violence, we fully intend to prosecute the full extent of the law."
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
58. Prohibition of Drugs, Prostitution, Gambling, all have Official " Intentions "
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:44 PM
Jul 2014

and they all thrive . Gun-nuts, and militias not so good, and with the government truly Intending to find Any excuse to pull the " Homeland Security " card, these IDIOTS!!!!! should get their heads out of their ass .

salin

(48,955 posts)
60. Yours is a much more sophisticated variant of my reaction
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jul 2014

... under what statute is murder based on threat not conceded to - considered not murder (per prosecutable)?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
61. You can swindle some citizens all you want...
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:04 PM
Jul 2014

...if you nod and wink as you let them assault foreigners with enormous guns.

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