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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:42 PM Mar 2012

UK energy plans in 'tatters' after Npower and E. ON nuclear plant withdrawal

Source: The Telegraph

Britain's long-term energy policy lay "in tatters" on Thursday after two of the ''big six'' energy companies pulled out of multi-billion pound plans to develop new nuclear plants.

In a ''devastating blow'' for the Government's energy policy, RWE npower and E. ON announced they would end their joint venture to build nuclear power plants in Britain.

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Keith Allott, head of climate change at WWF-UK, said despite the government's efforts to "bend over backwards", it was "now blindingly clear that the economics just don't stack up".

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"The Government needs to wake up and smell the coffee - if it backed the renewables industry to the hilt instead of flogging the nuclear horse, then the UK could become a world leader in a sector that is already seeing massive growth."

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Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/nuclearpower/9173253/UK-energy-plans-in-tatters-after-Npower-and-E.-ON-nuclear-plant-withdrawal.html

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UK energy plans in 'tatters' after Npower and E. ON nuclear plant withdrawal (Original Post) bananas Mar 2012 OP
I was going to say... BB_Troll Mar 2012 #1
I think they're targeting almost 20GW of offshore wind in the next decade. FBaggins Mar 2012 #2
Using the oceans "wave power" would be their best bet. eom xtraxritical Mar 2012 #3
They (and Ireland) do have some of the world's best sites for that FBaggins Mar 2012 #8
That depends on whether you split off Scotland muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #9
Total available wave power for the whole UK is only about 1/9th current electricity consumption muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #10
You can use solar to warm water, even in the north of Scotland. (nt) MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #5
Good to know... BB_Troll Mar 2012 #6
Of course but its only part of renewables. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #7
Should be following our lead on renewables. MichaelMcGuire Mar 2012 #4

BB_Troll

(65 posts)
1. I was going to say...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:58 PM
Mar 2012

Nuclear, fine. But where are they on Wind? I'm sure thy have plenty of that on the British Isles.
(Solar probably won't work there though.)

FBaggins

(26,744 posts)
2. I think they're targeting almost 20GW of offshore wind in the next decade.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Mar 2012

But they're at a potential crossroads in government policy.

It looks like they're cutting back on encouraging solar and changing HOW they encourage some wind power from direct support to penalizing high carbon emissions.

FBaggins

(26,744 posts)
8. They (and Ireland) do have some of the world's best sites for that
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:39 PM
Mar 2012

but the implementation just isn't as advanced as offshore wind is. They're still trying to demonstrate a commercially viable design.

The UK is near the front of the wave (pun intended), but offshore wind has much more short/mid-term options.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
9. That depends on whether you split off Scotland
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:29 PM
Mar 2012
The Offshore Valuation, which is the source for some of the Scottish figures in the Wikipedia article below, reckons the split of available wave power between Scotland, England and Wales as:

Scotland 15 GW
Wales 1.5 GW
England 1.5 GW

It comments:

As the strongest wave resource will be located on the west coast of the UK, a large share of the total generation can be expected to be located in three regions: off the coasts of western Scotland, south-west Wales and Cornwall.

Scotland and Ireland have the majority of the west-facing coast.

The 2 power station sites under discussion here are in Wales and England.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
10. Total available wave power for the whole UK is only about 1/9th current electricity consumption
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
Mar 2012

About 40 TWh/annum available, compared with 352 TWh consumption in 2009. And if Scotland were to become independent, they'd get about 80% of the available wave power.

 

MichaelMcGuire

(1,684 posts)
4. Should be following our lead on renewables.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:26 PM
Mar 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Scotland

Scotland's resource potential

The production of renewable energy in Scotland is an issue that has come to the fore in technical, economic, and political terms during the opening years of the 21st century.[1] The natural resource base for renewables is extraordinary by European, and even global standards. In addition to an existing installed capacity[a] of 1.3 Gigawatts (GW) of hydro-electric schemes, Scotland has an estimated potential of 36.5 GW of wind and 7.5 GW of tidal power, 25% of the estimated total capacity for the European Union and up to 14 GW of wave power potential, 10% of EU capacity.[2][3] The renewable electricity generating capacity may be 60 GW or more, considerably greater than the existing capacity from all Scottish fuel sources of 10.3 GW.[2][4] Scotland is on track to exceed its renewable energy target, set in 2007, for 31% of total power generation coming from renewables by 2011, and the 2020 target for the renewable share of total electricity generation has been raised from 50% to 80%.[5]

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