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alp227

(32,029 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:08 PM Aug 2014

Fla. judge orders special session to redraw congressional map

Source: Miami Herald

TALLAHASSEE -- -- Circuit Court Judge Terry Lewis ruled Friday that the Florida Legislature must immediately revise its congressional map and gave it until Aug. 15 to submit a revised map.

Lawyers for the Legislature had argued that fixing the map before the November elections would “cause horrific uncertainty” for voters and would be an extreme, unnecessary remedy. He ordered a hearing for Aug. 20 to review the proposals.

Lewis ruled last month that the state’s congressional redistricting maps are invalid and declared two of the states’s 27 districts unconstitutional — those held by U.S. Reps. Corrine Brown, D-Jacksonville, and Dan Webster, R-Winter Garden.

But the Legislature decided not to appeal the ruling. House Speaker Will Weatherford and Senate President Don Gaetz then urged Lewis to let them revise the map after the November elections to avoid disrupting the fall elections and to comply with federal voting rules that impose a fixed schedule for sending ballots to overseas voters in the military.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/01/4266657/florida-judges-orders-special.html



Link to an interactive feature on the evolution of Florida's congressional districts: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/political-pulse/os-judge-orders-new-map-for-central-florida-congressional-district-by-aug-15-wants-a-special-election-t-20140801,0,563158.post
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Fla. judge orders special session to redraw congressional map (Original Post) alp227 Aug 2014 OP
This is outstanding news! The GOP gerrymandering maps Orlandodem Aug 2014 #1
“cause horrific uncertainty” translation "would negate our attempt to gerrymander the election" cstanleytech Aug 2014 #2
More on how it will work from the Tallahassee Democrat... flpoljunkie Aug 2014 #3
Thanks.....that makes more sense..... Swede Atlanta Aug 2014 #5
base all districts on watersheds wordpix Aug 2014 #8
Judge Lewis disagrees there is not enough time flpoljunkie Aug 2014 #10
I don't care what the judge thinks....... Swede Atlanta Aug 2014 #14
Drawing the districts is easy... brooklynite Aug 2014 #17
News Flash lark Aug 2014 #12
Outstanding News! AC_Mem Aug 2014 #4
More from The Hill on whose districts may be affected... flpoljunkie Aug 2014 #6
I think all maps should be based on watershed districts wordpix Aug 2014 #7
And here is the rest of the story.... Lochloosa Aug 2014 #9
Ah, we must be "neighbors". lark Aug 2014 #13
His district spreads out all over. Baymeadows and San Jose area in Jax. Lochloosa Aug 2014 #16
It must go through eastern Arlington as well lark Aug 2014 #18
It does. All the way to Mayport then makes a left Lochloosa Aug 2014 #19
crazy lark Aug 2014 #20
This is excellent news! mcar Aug 2014 #11
More of this please, nt. Blue Idaho Aug 2014 #15

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
3. More on how it will work from the Tallahassee Democrat...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:20 PM
Aug 2014
Circuit Judge Terry Lewis orders special session for new map

By Gary Fineout Associated Press 12:44 p.m. EDT August 1, 2014

A Florida judge is ordering legislators to hold a special session to draw up a new congressional map for the state.

Circuit Judge Terry Lewis on Friday ruled that the Florida Legislature must draw up new congressional districts by Aug. 15. Lewis said that he will then order a special election later this year for those new districts.

Legislative leaders had wanted to keep in place the state's current districts until after the 2014 elections. Lewis has already previously ruled the current districts are illegal because they were drawn to benefit the Republican Party.

Voters in 2010 passed the "Fair Districts" amendment that says legislators cannot draw up districts to favor incumbents or a political party.
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
5. Thanks.....that makes more sense.....
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:39 PM
Aug 2014

I couldn't see how this could be accomplished in such short time. In fact I suspect the special election will not be held until sometime in Q1 of 2015.

First the legislature has to draw up the new districts. The court gave them 2 weeks to do this. That is not sufficient time in my opinion. Just because they gerrymandered the districts before doesn't mean we should try to cram a fairly complex process into two weeks. I would rather they take some time to develop districts consistent with the "Fair Districts" amendment. I don't know if those then need to go the governor for his signature before they go to the judge for approval or after.

But that process should not be rushed. Further voters have to be advised which district they are in, voters rolls, etc. adjusted for the new districts, etc. This takes some time.

The November elections will proceed based on the current gerrymandered districts. Those Congressmen/women may even be sworn in in January only to be removed from office after the special election.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
8. base all districts on watersheds
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:58 PM
Aug 2014

Dividing into smaller districts for large watersheds is not impossible, either. Upper, middle and lower watershed districts could be one way to subdivide.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
10. Judge Lewis disagrees there is not enough time
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:25 PM
Aug 2014
From Judge Lewis' order today…

The Legislature has shown following the Supreme Court's order in Apportionment I that it is capable of adopting and submitting a remedial map very quickly when time is of the essence. Indeed, I would be surprised if it's (the Legislature's) staff has not already prepared alternatives for considerations by members.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/235627849/Judge-Terry-Lewis-order-on-Congressional-Redistricting

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
14. I don't care what the judge thinks.......
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:09 PM
Aug 2014

Even he realizes the "process" will not be over by November that is why he says there will have to be special elections.

The judge is really stupid if he thinks these new districts will be drawn in 2 weeks. They won't be and if they are they will be as bad or worse as the last ones. I can see the FL legislature just continuing to throw him bad map after bad map. In the meanwhile the congress critters in Washington are dismantling our county.

Trust me, the fact the legislature says they aren't appealing means nothing. I don't even think the legislature has standing. Normally the state AG represents the state so I won't even conclude there won't be an appeal.

Even if there is no appeal the FL legislature are not giving up. There will be no immediate changes.

brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
17. Drawing the districts is easy...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:09 PM
Aug 2014

...These days, computer software can quickly allocate all population units into equitable and balanced districts in a couple of hours.

What can't perhaps get done is addressing the inevitable appeals and requests to tweak the boundaries.

lark

(23,105 posts)
12. News Flash
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:35 PM
Aug 2014

The crazy right wingers are still in control of the FL. legislature. Even if they do redo the districts, I'd be shocked if they didn't pull shenanigans.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
6. More from The Hill on whose districts may be affected...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:49 PM
Aug 2014
The state legislature now has two weeks to come up with a new map, one that will likely shed Democratic voters in Brown's ungainly Jacksonville-to-Orlando district into neighboring areas.

Webster, Reps. John Mica (R-Fla.), Dennis Ross (R-Fla.), Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) and others could all potentially see line changes that could put them in much tougher races, though the GOP-controlled state legislature that's in charge of the new lines will likely seek to do as little damage as possible to their incumbents' chances.

The decision could also force a number of districts to reopen election filing, which might give Democrats another crack at finding a candidate to challenge freshman Rep. David Jolly (R-Fla.), though it's unclear whether his district will be touched.

"It's pretty clear Democrats are going to benefit. How much is the question," said one Florida Democrat who's been closely following the case.

This post was updated at 1:18 p.m.

More…

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/214061-report-judge-orders-florida-congressional-map-redrawn

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
7. I think all maps should be based on watershed districts
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:55 PM
Aug 2014

Of course you will have to divide districts in large watersheds but at least it will cut down on the gerrymandering going on now

Lochloosa

(16,066 posts)
9. And here is the rest of the story....
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:24 PM
Aug 2014

Everyone assumes the seat held by Corrine Brown is drawn to assure a minority rep is elected. And it does. But the hidden truth is that it also assures 3-5 safe repug seats.

My useless piece of shit Congressman Ander Crenshaw, that directly borders Ms. Browns district, is so safe he is running unopposed again.

This will upset the apple cart for him.

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