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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:23 PM Aug 2014

Poland honors fighters on 70th anniversary of Warsaw Uprising against Nazi Germans

Source: Associated Press

Poland on Friday honored the fighters and victims of a 1944 rebellion against Nazi Germans by laying wreaths, lighting candles and singing insurgent tunes to mark the 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising.

On Aug. 1, 1944, thousands of poorly-armed young city residents rose up against the German forces to try to take control of Warsaw ahead of the advancing Soviet army. They held on for 63 days in the cut-off city before being forced to surrender. Almost 200,000 fighters and civilians were killed in street fights and in German bombings. The Nazis expelled the survivors and set the city ablaze.

President Bronislaw Komorowski joined a group of the surviving insurgents for a series of ceremonies that honored the heroic struggle that remains a source of pride for the Poles.

Komorowski laid flowers on the graves of the revolt's commanders and was to attend ceremonies at a symbolic grave to the fighters in the Powazki cemetery in the afternoon at the exact hour when the struggle began. In a long-standing tradition, people in Warsaw and many other cities stop still for a moment of homage when sirens sound at the hour.

The Warsaw Uprising was a taboo subject until the fall of communism in 1989. It has been honored ever since as a symbol of Poland's readiness to pay the ultimate price for freedom.

Read more: http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/08/01/poland-marks-70th-anniversary-of-warsaw-uprising

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bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. Poland Marks 70th Anniversary of Warsaw Uprising
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:25 PM
Aug 2014
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/poland-marks-70th-anniversary-warsaw-uprising-24801984

Poland Marks 70th Anniversary of Warsaw Uprising
WARSAW, Poland — Aug 1, 2014, 2:39 PM ET
By MONIKA SCISLOWSKA
Associated Press

Sirens let out a long and mournful wail and people and traffic stood still on the streets of Warsaw on Friday as Poland commemorated the 70th anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising, a revolt against Nazi Germany that ended tragically for the Poles.

On Aug. 1, 1944, thousands of poorly-armed young city residents rose up against the German forces to try to take control of Warsaw ahead of the advancing Soviet army. They held on for 63 days in the cut-off city before being forced to surrender. Almost 200,000 fighters and civilians were killed in street fights and in German bombings. The Nazis expelled the survivors and set the city ablaze.

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Komorowski and Prime Minister Donald Tusk laid wreaths at a black stone obelisk in a military cemetery in the day's main observance. Thousands of people of all ages also turned out for the ceremony held on the exact hour — 5 p.m. local time (1500GMT) — when the uprising began. Many placed candles or flowers in the national colors of white and red on graves of the fighters or at the obelisk in Powazki cemetery in memory of the struggle.

In a long-standing tradition, people in Warsaw and many other cities stood still for a moment of homage when sirens sounded at the hour.

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bananas

(27,509 posts)
7. Ten years ago, US neocons tried to repeat it.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:47 PM
Aug 2014

Their "New American Century" didn't last any longer than the "Thousand Year Reich".

We're still cleaning up the mess they made.

Only yesterday the CIA admitted it's been spying on Congress.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Project for the New American Century

This article is part of the Center for Media & Democracy's focus on the fallout of nuclear "spin."

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was a neo-conservative think tank (1997 to 2006) that had strong ties to the American Enterprise Institute. ...

PNAC's policy document, "Rebuilding America's Defences," openly advocated for total global military domination. Many PNAC members held highest-level positions in the George W. Bush administration. The Project was an initiative of the New Citizenship Project (501c3). [1] ...

In 2009 two of PNAC's founders, William Kristol and Robert Kagan, began what some termed "PNAC 2.0," The Foreign Policy Initiative. ...


http://commondreams.org/news/2014/07/31/yes-admits-cia-chief-we-spied-senate-panel-investigating-torture

Yes, Admits CIA Chief, We Spied on Senate Panel Investigating Torture

Sen. Ron Wyden says behavior of intelligence agency is 'absolutely unacceptable in a democracy'

by Jon Queally, staff writer
Thursday, July 31, 2014

Head of the CIA John Brennan has admitted to his agency spying on the work of the Senate Intelligence Committee panel investigating Bush-era torture tactics. (Photo: AP)

The findings of an internal investigation at the Central Intelligence Agency made available to the public on Thursday show that CIA agents did, in fact, spy on the Senate Intelligence Committee panel set up to investigate post-9/11 government torture under the Bush administration.

Lawmakers were briefed on the report by the CIA Inspector General's Office earlier this week and the head of the agency, John Brennan, issued an in-person apology to lawmakers on Tuesday over the agency's behavior during a meeting with Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif), who chairs the Intelligence Committee, and Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ala.), the committee's vice chair.

In a statement obtained by McClatchy news, which first reported the story, CIA spokesman Dean Boyd confirmed to lawmakers “that some CIA employees acted in a manner inconsistent with the common understanding reached between SSCI (Senate Select Committee on Intelligence) and the CIA in 2009.”

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onenote

(42,714 posts)
13. If you think what is happening in Gaza is remotely comparable to the Warsaw Ghetto, you don't know
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 07:16 AM
Aug 2014

much about either.

I've seen a comparison between Gaza and Warsaw elsewhere on DU and while the deaths occurring in Gaza are horrible the comparison to Warsaw is, in a word, obscene.

Let's start with the notion that Gazans are trapped in a "ghetto"-like environment comparable to Warsaw. Over 400,000 Jewish men, women and children were walled into an area of 1.3 square miles -- a population density of over 300,000/square mile. The Gaza Strip contains 1.8 million people in an area that is 139 square miles. Even if you focus only on Gaza City (which has an area of 17 square miles) the population density is 30,000 --- 1/10th the density of the Warsaw Ghetto (and half the density of Manhattan for that matter).

Prior to the establishment of the Warsaw Ghetto, the Jews of Poland posed no threat to German civilians or to the occupying German army. They had not rockets that they could fire at Germany. They were not governed by a group that had as it's sworn objective the elimination of Germany and its people. Tens of thousands of them were hauled away in train cars to be systematically exterminated in death camps. And when they finally rose up and launched a resistance effort to stop the Germans from carting their fellow Jews off to death camps, the Germans killed virtually all of them -- men, women, and children. At least 300,000 out of 400,000. Most were dragged off to die in concentration camps and gas chambers. Thousands (far more than have died in Gaza) were killed when the Germans swept through the tiny Ghetto with flame throwers, burning everything and everyone in their path. The buildings of the entire Ghetto were razed. No one ever received a call from the Germans warning them to evacuate their homes before they were burned alive.

While the border between Israel and Gaza has been sealed or tightly controlled for a number of years, up until recently (even with the blockade), there was a certain amount of traffic allowed in and out of Gaza. Same for the border with Egypt. No one left the Warsaw Ghetto unless they snuck out. Gaza, while in dire poverty, has an economy. Until recently, there was something of a construction boom in Gaza, with a new hotel having opened up in 2011 (it should go without saying that there were no hotels in the Warsaw Ghetto). While building that hotel may have been a spectacularly bad investment, it was possible.

What is happening in Gaza is terrible and needs to come to an end. But to compare Gaza and Warsaw is to demonstrate ignorance borne of hatred, or hatred borne of ignorance.



bananas

(27,509 posts)
3. WWII Video Game Will Pause for 1 Minute Today to Remember the Warsaw Uprising
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:33 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/wwii-video-game-will-pause-1-minute-today-remember-warsaw-uprising-159243

WWII Video Game Will Pause for 1 Minute Today to Remember the Warsaw Uprising

Enemy Front marks battle's 70th anniversary

By David Gianatasio
August 1, 2014, 12:00 PM EDT

A video game set amid the resistance to Adolf Hitler's war machine and played globally 24/7 will pause for 60 seconds today to commemorate the 70th anniversary of World War II's Warsaw Uprising.

Enemy Front, created by Polish game studio CI Games, will halt at 1 p.m. Eastern, coinciding with an annual minute of silent remembrance held in Polish cities.

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During the game's freeze today, players will be directed to http://ItWasntAGame.com to learn more about the uprising. They will also be encouraged to share that knowledge on social media. The site will stream a two-minute film that shows footage of modern Warsaw's automobile and pedestrian traffic coming to a standstill as sirens wail and the residents remember the sacrifices of the past. McCann Worldgroup in Poland devised the campaign.

"We hope that through this event, we can help the world understand the importance of that fateful day in Warsaw and why it is important to honor the memory of all those who fell in combat, helping us to achieve freedom," explains CI Games CEO Marek Tyminski.

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TIMETOCHANGE

(86 posts)
5. Poland gets my respect.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:44 PM
Aug 2014

Never had many things to say for Poland (never said anything bad about them mind you). They made a great pistol in the Radom single stack 9mm. They make a good sausage. They helped fight back the Ottomans. But I've never known much else about them. They've been walked on, mistreated, and commonly seen as the bastard step child almost in America for those folks who aren't polish (at least here in Florida).

They get my appreciation on this.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
16. Polish mathematicians cracked the Nazi Enigma code machine
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 11:49 AM
Aug 2014
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8158782.stm

How Poles cracked Nazi Enigma secret
By Laurence Peter
BBC News
20 July 2009

A silk scarf bearing the image of a horse race was a suitably cryptic gift for a Polish mathematician to receive from a British code-breaker.

The Poles had got there first - that seemed to be the message.

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The fictional film Enigma, made in 2000, had dismayed Poles by neglecting these achievements and portraying a Pole as a traitor.

It has taken a long time to establish the historical facts, but the picture is much clearer now, in the run-up to the 70th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II.

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One of the lessons the British learned from the Polish experience was the importance of engaging the country's best mathematicians in the code-breaking project.

While British code-breakers were undoubtedly bright - Knox was a translator of ancient Greek poetry - they were not necessarily mathematicians.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9594403/Poles-launch-campaign-for-Enigma-code-breaking-recognition.html

Poles launch campaign for Enigma code-breaking recognition
By Matthew Day, Warsaw
08 Oct 2012

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Frustrated at watching the achievements of the British wartime code breakers at Bletchley Park lauded while those of Poles go overlooked, Poland's parliament has launched a campaign to "restore justice" to the Polish men and women who first broke the Enigma codes.

As part of the effort the upper house of Poland's parliament is to pass a resolution praising Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Rozycki and Henryk Zygalski, the three Polish mathematicians who first broke the codes back in 1932.

Hailed as "heroes" in the resolution, Rejewski, Rozycki and Zygalski worked at the Polish Cipher Bureau in the early 1930s, and in late 1932 came up with three methods for breaking the encrypted codes produced on the Enigma machine, which the Germans thought were unbreakable.

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The campaign to garner greater recognition for the Polish code breakers reflects a more widespread annoyance in Poland over how the country's contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany has often been overlooked or downplayed in post-war accounts.

Polish pilots had the highest kill rates in the Battle of Britain, Polish troops fought in the North African, Italian and Normandy campaigns, and were involved in the Battle for Berlin.

Despite their efforts, a British desire to appease Stalin meant that Polish forces, still under the command of Poland's independent government in exile, were banned from taking part in official V-E Day celebrations.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis_of_the_Enigma#Polish_breakthrough

Cryptanalysis of the Enigma enabled the western Allies in World War II to read substantial amounts of secret Morse-coded radio communications of the Axis powers that had been enciphered using Enigma machines.

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The German plugboard-equipped Enigma became the Third Reich's principal crypto-system. It was broken by the Polish General Staff's Cipher Bureau in December 1932—with the aid of French-supplied intelligence material that had been obtained from a German spy. Shortly before the outbreak of World War II, the Polish Cipher Bureau initiated the French and British into its Enigma-breaking techniques and technology at a conference held in Warsaw.

From this beginning, the British Government Code and Cypher School (GC&CS) at Bletchley Park built up an extensive cryptanalytic facility.

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Polish breakthrough
Main article: Polish Cipher Bureau

In the 1920s the German military began using a 3-rotor Enigma, whose security was increased in 1930 by the addition of a plugboard.[35] The Polish Cipher Bureau sought to break it due to the increasing threat that Poland faced from Germany. On 1 September 1932, a 27-year-old Polish mathematician, Marian Rejewski, joined the Bureau along with two fellow Poznań University mathematics graduates, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki.[36] Their first task was to solve the logical structure of the military Enigma, which differed from the commercial version.

In December 1932, the Bureau received from Gustave Bertrand of French Military Intelligence, two German documents and two pages of Enigma daily keys[37] which had been obtained by the French from an agent who worked at Germany's Cipher Office in Berlin, Hans-Thilo Schmidt.[38] This material enabled Rejewski to achieve "one of the most important breakthroughs in cryptologic history"[39] by using the theory of permutations and groups to work out the Enigma scrambler wiring.[40][41]

Rejewski found that the connections between the military Enigma's keyboard and the entry ring were not, as in the commercial Enigma, in the order of the keys on a German typewriter. He made an inspired correct guess that it was in alphabetical order. Britain's Dilly Knox was astonished when he learned, in July 1939, that the arrangement was so simple.[42][43] Having worked out the logical structure of the machine, Rejewski had replicas made, which he called 'Enigma doubles'.

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http://www.codesandciphers.org.uk/virtualbp/poles/poles.htm

The Breaking of Enigma by the Polish Mathematicians

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The Polish Mathematicians

Polish Intelligence were initially unable to break the German Enigma traffic, however driven by the imperative of finding what the Germans were up to, they, uniquely among other nations at that time, decided to try a mathematical approach. In 1932 a team of young mathematicians was set up. It included Jerzy Rozycki, Henryk Zygalski and Marian Rejewski (all of whom were products of the notable flowering of Polish mathematics in the 1920s and 1930s).

Rejewski quickly showed that mathematical techniques could be used to attack the problem of finding the message key by exploiting the German's cryptographic error in repeating the message key at the start of a transmission.

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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. Trapped in the city, surrounded by the overwhelming military force of the occupying army,
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:44 PM
Aug 2014

they fought a desperate and doomed battle from the tunnels of their Ghetto.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
10. An important event in history, often misused.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 02:09 AM
Aug 2014

But, it is obvious as to why. This is one of the most known rebellions, but there were others and are contrary to the idea that Jews were nothing but sheep led to the slaughter.

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