A nine-year old girl on a paper route he had is unaccounted for to this day.

Hopefully, a serial killer has been stopped in his tracks.


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I don't believe in the death penalty, except for serial killers and serial rapists. That have something mentally wrong with them that we can't fix and the only human way to deal with them is to euthanize them. If the above commenter is right and there is another potential victim, then his life should be ended.

Assuming he's guilty, obviously. We need a fair trial for that.

I do not believe in the death penalty for a minor under any circumstances.

They are less likely to fully understand their rights upon interrogation, are routinely denied parental presence during interviews, and are more likely to falsely confess than an adult.

Even if this guy is guilty as sin, life in prison will protect the community.

I don't get how teens can be turned into adults by the court for committing a crime. They aren't treated as an adult in any other circumstance, because they aren't adults.

And recognizing their youth on occasion is an impediment to the brutalization. People want blood, they want viscera, they want screams of pain and agony, because they think that revenge is a higher cause than justice, that visiting horrible things upon a criminal somehow alleviates the wrongs they have committed. It's why we keep the death penalty around. it's why prison rape is still seen as something to joke about. It's why a 12 year old can be tried as an adult.

What this child - and he's a goddamned child - did is heinous and awful. This does not teleport him to adulthood, just so people can get their blood and yelling. It means he's a sick kid who does need to be locked up, but for treatment, for his safety and for ours.

But, Americans want their bloodsport, and therapy is usually the opposite of that.

I agree with you completely. I was just too chicken shit to spell it out like you did!

of my grandson that long before freaking out.

How do you not at least check up on a 6 year old ALL day. She eats doesn't she.

If my 5yo grandson gets quiet for longer than 3 minutes we notice, we better.

Just very weird.

... and running to a neighbor's house to play. They sent their 12-year-old out about noon to look for her sister, and per articles she was told, and other people have since said to investigators, that they thought they saw the little girl Sunday afternoon playing. Reassured that she'd been seen, they expected her in by dinner. Apparently she often ate lunch or snacks with neighbor kids. When she didn't show for supper, they started looking for her, and called the cops when they'd searched about an hour and a half.

It is plausible -- I nearly burned down the house when I was almost three and woke up before everyone else. After that, I was told if I woke up to run next door to my grandmother's house, and another neighbor would also babysit for me on such impromptu occasions as me showing up at her doorstep to get a cookie. This was also in a very small trailer park, well outside the city limits. Things changed rapidly when we moved to the city and in with my other set of grandparents. Granny woke up at 5 AM every morning to make sure I was supervised, and then when I kept running off from my grandfather with emphysema to go ring neighbor's doorbells (I liked cookies) they put me in daycare until my attention span was longer and I would remember for more than 20 minutes at a time that I couldn't run off like that anymore.

I don't like to tear down victims of a tragedy, but this is the exact way this type of thing can happen. Kid is routinely left "free-range" too young and too long, and other people start to notice. There are articles showing that neighbors saw this kid wandering barefoot at all hours from the time she was four. Instead of being "busybodies" and calling the cops or CPS, the neighbors tried to step in where they could. It wasn't enough, and some pervert saw this bright-eyed kid who had never known a stranger dangled under their nose, befriended her, gained her trust, and murdered her.

I have extremely mixed feelings about this case, but mainly identify with the little girl. I can see how such a tragedy can, and did, happen far too easily in those circumstances, and am quite annoyed at the neighbors who easily got up on TV to say that they'd seen this little girl routinely unsupervised for long periods of time as young as age four, yet did nothing. The ones who actually tried to do something were on TV and social media defending the family, not castigating them.

But apparently no one involved the authorities.

I can't help but wonder if this little girl would be alive today had police shown up at the family's door with Jenise in tow some day, week, year before this, and a pair of handcuffs, like they did in other cases....

At the same time, the family has experienced the absolute worst consequence for their actions already, and I'm also quite annoyed at those on social media calling for the parents to be arrested now, or saying they're just as responsible as the person who raped and murdered her. There's nothing the law can do to punish them that can equal what they're going through now.

of neighborhoods.

Sleazy trailer park in North Carolina, surrounded by deep dark Appalachian woods. My parents let me roam far and wide - Mostly because they really had no good method of stopping me short of locking me in a cage. They gave up and made the demand that I tell them where I was going, who I was going to be with, and to be home before dark.

i came home on time most nights. never had any trouble, because none of our neighbors were fucking psychopaths. if one of them were, well, it would be that psychopath's fault and not my parents' - what are they going to do, chain me up and roll me under my bed all day? Break my feet? They tried to ground me, i just snuck out the damn window and got in more trouble.

I'm honestly torn. On the one hand, my own experience is that kids are going to roam, and that parents assuming their neighborhood is full of crazies is a good way to severely stunt both your child and your own social relations. But then... sometimes the neighbors ARE crazies.

i could maybe see it.

but for me 6 just seems too young. it seems too young to even ground them if they don't behave.

but this is not to blame the parents . i just mean in any situation . even inside the house i would feel the need to know regularly what the child of that age would be doing .

i would like to get more info on the 17 year old who did this to her. it's not like she died by getting hit by a car or some other accident. even if the girl was watched most of the times it could not be enough. and it's possible this 17 year old was one of the people they trusted in the area.

But like I said, they pretty much had no way to stop me - Or more to the point, i knew they had no way to stop me, and weighed between my parents displeasure and hauling ass through the woods to plumb around in the creek, I went for the one that had turtles.

so to me, a 6 year old playing around the neighborhood isn't a big deal - especially when you know other people have an eye out too.

I think that's the biggest problem with the notion that everyone nearby could be a Really Bad Person™ - the lack of community that paranoia causes actually makes things LESS safe, i think

The consensus seems to be that it's quite possible the suspect "played" with this little girl "often", and so yes, was trusted by the family.

I just cringe at the way it was phrased, given what happened to this little girl.

grandson, and if I didn't know where he was for even an hour, I'd be all over the place with the cops, dogs, neighbors, etc. I'd be flipping shit.....

And no way I'd let it be even 30 min without knowing where she was - I know time is of the essence in missing kids cases.

That said, not everyone is as paranoid as I am. And some people are just clueless. When I was little, my mom was pretty careful about where I went. So were most other parents but I had one friend, Jane, whose mother thought it was perfectly fine for my friend to wander around the neighborhood by herself all day. My mom thought it was awful and told me about the time Jane's mom came and knocked on my mom's door and said, "I'm headed off to the city to do a bit of shopping. If Jane comes around, would you let her know where I went? Thanks." My friend was *5* years old at the time and the city was a 20 minute drive. My mom was shocked and thought how odd, what would this kid do if she needed to go home for some reason, but then excused it by saying, "Well, she IS from Scotland. Maybe that's normal there." My mom just made sure she kept an eye out for my friend and invited her in when she saw her. Jane's mom was a good mom in all other respects - my friend was well fed and clothed, and her mom loved her fiercely. But man, her mom had a blind spot with her children wandering around the neighborhood.

looked for, for so long.

Kill hundreds of thousands and you do stupid paintings of world leaders to hang in your presidential library.

this is about the rape and murder of a 6 yo. girl.

Show a little class.

>Against capital punishment

>Except in cases like this one where they're all for it

The kid is innocent until proven guilty. If he's guilty then he'll be locked up for a long time and that's justice enough. If he's innocent then I hope the evidence proves it. Let's not start the lynching until the evidence is proven or disprove in a court of law.

...but that it should only be applied to the worst of the worst.

That is all.

and anger at what has happened.

also, not all DU members are opposed to the death penalty

first time hearing of this. So sad ugh

But of course you know better than the father right?