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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 11:58 PM Aug 2014

Cisco Systems to cut 6000 jobs

Source: Sydney Morning Herald

August 14, 2014 - 12:10PM

In what has become almost an annual ritual, computer networking and communications colossus Cisco Systems on Wednesday said it was laying off thousands of employees as it struggles with sluggish sales and a range of fierce competitors.

The company announced 6000 job cuts on a conference call following its quarterly earnings report, or roughly 8 per cent of its workforce, and has trimmed nearly 20,000 jobs worldwide over the last five years. Although Chief Financial Officer Frank Calderoni said the company expected to reinvest much of the savings from the cuts announced Wednesday into key growth areas, Cisco officials would not say how many new people would be hired in those areas or where they would be employed. They also did not say where the cuts would occur.

A spokeswoman for Cisco Australia said the cuts would have a global impact. It's understood the company employees around 1000 people in Australia.

Noting that the San Jose corporation needs to make changes to keep pace with rapidly changing technology, Baird Equity Research analyst Jayson Noland said "it's probably frustrating to be an employee there when they are going to have major restructuring efforts like this every year or two." But he added, "if your skills are stale as an engineer or as a sales and marketing guy, you're running the risk of being replaced."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/business-it/cisco-systems-to-cut-6000-jobs-20140814-103wvu.html



With Profits Slipping, Cisco Plans to Cut Jobs

AUG. 13, 2014

SAN FRANCISCO — Cisco Systems may be doing a little better than Wall Street expects, considering its technology and sales challenges. But that does not mean the company will avoid layoffs in the coming months.

On Wednesday, Cisco released fourth-quarter earnings that illustrated its troubles as one of the tech industry’s giants competing in a rapidly changing environment. In a conference call with investors and analysts, Cisco executives said the company planned to cut up to 6,000 jobs, or 8 percent of its work force, in the coming months. They offered no specific timeline for the cuts.

Long the dominant player in hardware that ships the world’s digital information around and between computer centers, Cisco faces challenges from younger companies that, while far from toppling the company from its perch as one of tech’s bellwethers, have made it harder for it to command the profit margins it once did.

Fourth-quarter revenues, Cisco said, were $12.36 billion, down from $12.42 billion in the same quarter a year ago. Net income was $2.25 billion, or 43 cents a share, down from $2.27 billion a year ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/14/technology/with-profits-slipping-cisco-announces-job-cuts.html
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merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Rec for visibility. So sorry for Cisco workers.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:08 AM
Aug 2014

Heck, even the ones who have not been fired yet must be living in hell.

We REALLY need a renewed union movement.

Initech

(100,108 posts)
2. $12.36 *BILLION* in profit and they're cutting 6,000 jobs?
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:22 AM
Aug 2014

Something is very very very very very very wrong here.

 
4. That's not what they said or what the article said!
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:39 AM
Aug 2014

Do you have a source for your $12.36 billion in profit claim?

rpannier

(24,345 posts)
6. I think he/she is using this from the article
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:44 AM
Aug 2014

Fourth-quarter revenues, Cisco said, were $12.36 billion

I know it's not the same thing

I've seen a lot of articles explaining the difference
So, I'm guessing, it's not an uncommon error

Brother Buzz

(36,479 posts)
5. That's fourth-quarter revenue
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:41 AM
Aug 2014

It cost them $10,11 billion to make $2.25 billion profit, hardly chump change in my world.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
8. Cisco has turned into Nortel as far as I can tell,
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 01:49 AM
Aug 2014

A large and powerful company that has ceased to innovate and is using overpriced acquisitions to obtain new product lines and marketshare while lobbing off it's own limbs.

mnhtnbb

(31,408 posts)
12. I know a Cisco person who just moved from SoCal to the Bay area
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 05:22 AM
Aug 2014

and I bet the move was related to this announcement.
She's been an absolute STAR sales person for them for the last 10 years.
I sure hope they don't axe her after she just relocated her entire family (hubby and 2 <10 sons)
for her job.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
14. in other news, outlook for hiring in India is bright and sunny, and cisco will be first
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:49 AM
Aug 2014

to complain that they just can't find talent in the US like they can in India...

you know, the kind of talent that works for 50% less pay and yields a giant tax break for every America job stolen away.

Massacure

(7,526 posts)
15. There is plenty of IT opportunities in the US.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:49 PM
Aug 2014

I've been in that model where I've been on a software development team with 15 people on site and 40 people or so in India. We spend more time training the off-shore staff and reviewing their code than doing actual development work. We get some real dunces more often than we would have liked, but we quickly fire them. Even the good programmers need to be mentored though; they have the technical aptitude to do the work we need them to do but they just don't understand the business processes of the organization they are contracted to. Could we hire another 15-20 people in the United States to replace the 40 in India? Probably. But I don't lose sleep over it. India's economy averages about 7% growth annually. It's only a matter of time until wages their catch up with those here.

I will admit that I do really like one thing about that on-site/off-shore model -- it certainly is nice not having to worry about technical support in the middle of the night. Our servers and many of the applications that ran on them would send out automated phone calls if they knew something was in trouble, and the off-shore guys took care of all that for us from 9:00 or 10:00 pm to 6:00 or 7:00 am depending on daylight savings.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
16. there is much more to it, it is about taxes and H1Bs from India
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 10:33 PM
Aug 2014

in last decade I have spent too much time in Asia experiencing this shit first hand.

Years ago I took a job cleaning up from mess in India but mgmt had to hide it from senior execs because they were in process of shipping hundreds more jobs to India and you could not interfere with the narrative that India was better investment than US.

I do lose sleep over it, so do my colleagues. I am only non-asian, among large group, been a minority for more than decade, having changed jobs twice because of massive shit to India. Nepotism is prevalent within H1Bs and some are bringing caste prejudices against non-Asian workers and women in the workplace.

Lately trend has been for H1Bs to come to US learn what they can, then go back to India, often for competitor. Now they are hiring H1Bs in US to manage teams in India after discovering teams do not want to work for US managers.

Offshore support? It used to be common in US to have three shifts, 24/7, no problem. Asia didn't invent that.

I take a bigger view than myself. I look at the communities damaged, the lost taxes and purchasing power and the stress of millions of lost jobs on schools and infrastructure and quality of life, along with destabilizing military threat from China and India.

Perhaps I feel worst for the poor saps laid-off from fact. jobs or out of military and scolded for not having skills. They went and got their Cisco and MSFT certs, etc with kids and families. After that, they were scolded because they wanted more than $7/Hr.

And all that about jobs coming back, 7% growth? Nothing is changing and it will get worse before it gets better. That's why Transpacific Partnership is being fast tracked. China is getting in our face with the military we built, India is getting more expensive and India's corruption makes Wall Street CEOs look like Mother Teresa.

So its on to Vietnam for green fields and wages at 25% the rate of India!

Regards and may your pointer never be NULL.

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