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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:07 AM Mar 2012

Dwayne Wade's nephew among 13 injured in Chicago shootings

Source: Associated Press via Sports Illustrated

Posted: Friday March 30, 2012 9:17PM ; Updated: Saturday March 31, 2012 1:24AM

CHICAGO (AP) -- A nephew of Miami Heat star Dwyane Wade was one of 13 men shot - two fatally - during a violent six-hour stretch in Chicago, another indication that violence is on the rise in the nation's third-largest city.

Wade learned of the situation with his nephew after Miami defeated Dallas on Thursday night. On Friday, Wade said he played "with a heavy heart" when the Heat visited Toronto. Wade scored 30 points in Miami's 113-101 victory, and afterward said he expected his nephew to recover.

"I played for him and with him in mind," Wade said. "I was 9 years old when he was born. I was an uncle at 9 years old. A lot of thoughts go through your mind. ... My prayers go out to all the families involved, especially the one family who lost a child. My prayers go out to them. It's tough."

Wade's nephew was one of six males shot at a store on Chicago's South Side about 6 p.m. Thursday by hooded men who police said fled the scene in an SUV. One man was dead at the scene and four others - ranging in age from 16 to 24 - were hospitalized in critical condition. The Cook County medical examiner's office identified the slain man as Shawndell Harris, 22.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/03/30/chicago.shootings.ap/index.html?sct=nba_t2_a3

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Dwayne Wade's nephew among 13 injured in Chicago shootings (Original Post) ellisonz Mar 2012 OP
The Wrong Wing is going after any story where a crime... Grassy Knoll Mar 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #2
Story is made up and is impossible. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #3
Restrictive local gun laws don't help... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #5
Surely, they'll be able to find out who sold the gun once they catch the assailant. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #8
Why do you think he bought it? WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2012 #22
Open your eyes. emilyg Mar 2012 #6
To what? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #9
to rampant killings in emilyg Mar 2012 #11
Stricter laws on murders will help bring it down. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #12
Yes - emilyg Mar 2012 #19
Laws don't matter to gangbangers. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2012 #25
No... no... no... -..__... Apr 2012 #32
South Chicago Values LACarMan Apr 2012 #33
Are you questioning the reporting of the Associate Press on a factual basis? ellisonz Mar 2012 #7
What?? Chicago's south side is awash in gangs and guns. Besides, Gary IN is a stone's throw away riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #10
The obvious solution to this problem is MORE GUNS! Nostradammit Mar 2012 #13
There are no guns. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #14
Come out and say what you mean Kingofalldems Mar 2012 #15
I'm sure once they catch this assailant they'll be able to trace the gun back to the gunshop Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #16
NRA speak. Kingofalldems Mar 2012 #17
so you don't think he made it past the background check? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #20
Looks like you hijacked this thread to get in NRA Kingofalldems Mar 2012 #21
Sorry that you can't actually respond to my posts. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #27
No one is flustered. You're simply making yourself look ignorant. riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #30
So they've been able to trace the guns to Indiana? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #31
I do realize that we all of us make use of an inappropriate vehicle to better validate... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #39
Please refer to any of The Magistrate's posts. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #40
So you still think he bought the gun? WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2012 #23
I can't believe that poster isn't aware of how many guns are stolen in Chicago riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #26
Next they'll be stealing them from state armories. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #28
big increase this spring in gang turf wars. madrchsod Mar 2012 #4
The city is imploding with violence this year joe_sixpack Mar 2012 #18
Not Really, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #34
I was specifically referring to the gang violence joe_sixpack Apr 2012 #35
Again, Sir: 'Don't Believe The Hype....' The Magistrate Apr 2012 #36
Well, CPD Superintendent Garry McCarthy seems to think it's a problem joe_sixpack Apr 2012 #37
Weather Has Warmed Up Earlier, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #38
It will be much safer when every household has at least one gun. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2012 #24
All right then, I'm off to the store to get one. joe_sixpack Mar 2012 #29
Give em hell Snake!!n/t Johnson20 Apr 2012 #41

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
1. The Wrong Wing is going after any story where a crime...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:39 AM
Mar 2012

is committed while wearing a hoodie to justify George Zimmerman,
God speed to Mr. Wade's nephew.

Response to ellisonz (Original post)

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
3. Story is made up and is impossible.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:53 AM
Mar 2012

Chicago has either the most or almost the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. Restrictive local gun laws don't help...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:34 PM
Mar 2012

...when the rest of the country is awash with guns. You don't go through Customs upon entering Chicago.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
8. Surely, they'll be able to find out who sold the gun once they catch the assailant.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

Wonder which nearby state sold the assailant the gun.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
32. No... no... no...
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:48 PM
Apr 2012

they're civic groups and social organizations working to build a stronger community.

Referring to them as "gang bangers" is just another NRA orchestrated smear campaign.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
10. What?? Chicago's south side is awash in gangs and guns. Besides, Gary IN is a stone's throw away
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:14 PM
Mar 2012

(if you think anyone is having any trouble getting guns in Chicago, which they're not).

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
16. I'm sure once they catch this assailant they'll be able to trace the gun back to the gunshop
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:48 PM
Mar 2012

that sold him the gun. I wonder how he got past the background check.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
27. Sorry that you can't actually respond to my posts.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:25 PM
Mar 2012

Pointing out the irony of rising gun violence in one of the most gun restricted cities flusters a lot of people.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
30. No one is flustered. You're simply making yourself look ignorant.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:54 AM
Apr 2012

You keep harping about Chicago and it's gun restrictions without even once addressing the reality of Chicago's south side and it's proximity to Indiana, and of the nature of gangs and their propensity to simply steal guns (rather than buy them).

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
31. So they've been able to trace the guns to Indiana?
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 12:31 PM
Apr 2012

Gun violence is at a 50 year low and declining, yet gun ownership has never been higher and is increasing.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. I do realize that we all of us make use of an inappropriate vehicle to better validate...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:26 AM
Apr 2012

"Pointing out the irony of rising gun violence..." on the back of a tragic death appears to say as much about you as it does about gun laws...

However, I do realize that we all of us make use of an inappropriate vehicle to better validate our own belief systems now and again. Yet when that aberration becomes a consistent pattern, we far more often advertise our own class rather than our pet causes.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
26. I can't believe that poster isn't aware of how many guns are stolen in Chicago
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:05 PM
Mar 2012

or virtually any metro area.... gangs aren't going through legal channels, why should they? The city is flooded with guns!

Here's just one recent story from Chicago's south side to make it relevant (although it's typical anywhere in a big city imho):

snip

Meanwhile, authorities are looking into whether the Des Plaines heist and similar burglaries at nearly a half-dozen other gun shops statewide — Roselle, Salem, Lockport, New Lenox and Tinley Park — are linked to the same crew, said Special Agent Tom Ahern of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The common factor in all the burglaries is that the perpetrators are believed to be in their late teens, Ahern said.

“It's a typical smash and grab,” he said. “They get in and out pretty quickly. I'm certain that they would do their surveillance and scope out the security systems (and) what kind of enforcements are on the doors. By the time the alarm company notifies the police, it gives them plenty of time to get away.”

Ahern said in most cases the gun shops are doing the best they can to secure their merchandise.

“There's not much more you can do other than have somebody on watch for 24 hours,” Ahern said. “They don't want to lose these guns. That's their livelihood. And they don't want these guns ending up in the wrong hands.”

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120326/news/703269927/

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
4. big increase this spring in gang turf wars.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:14 PM
Mar 2012

it does`t matter if one is in a gang or not.you can be caught in the crossfire ,sitting in your house , walking to the store,or driving in your car.

joe_sixpack

(721 posts)
18. The city is imploding with violence this year
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 06:10 PM
Mar 2012

and last was pretty bad too. Chicago's my home town, it's terrible to see what's happening there. I was in the city last year when they closed some beaches. We were watching the news and the original reports said it was because several people were suffering from "heatstroke". My family and I just looked at each other, because it was still May, and the high was only around 78 degrees. That's nothing in Chicago. Later it was confirmed that the real reason was something to do with gang violence. Didn't appreciate the initial cover-up.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
34. Not Really, Sir
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:10 PM
Apr 2012

Rates of murder and shootings are well off established peaks, and running not far ahead of national averages. As the song says "Don't believe the hype...."

joe_sixpack

(721 posts)
35. I was specifically referring to the gang violence
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:12 PM
Apr 2012

I should have made that clear. It's true, I do not know if the overall statistics for non gang murders or shootings are up or down. I do know that gang violence was bad in the last two years, and this year is not looking too promising so far. I also know from contact with people still living there, that there is a widespread concern and perception that it's getting out of control. You don't dispute that, do you?

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
36. Again, Sir: 'Don't Believe The Hype....'
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:29 PM
Apr 2012

There is a nation-wide propaganda campaign on to paint Chicago as some pit of dystopian violence, in furtherance of pressing a concealed carry law in Illinois, and in some retribution for the former Mayor's legal efforts against the gun industry.

There are some turf struggles going on among the gangs, owing mostly to effective disruption over the the last few years of the higher levels of some of the longer established bodies; things like this always increase violence at the street level, as people scramble to gain status, and old understandings lose their force. Not an argument against arresting the leadership, mind, merely pointing out an inevitable short-run consequence of doing so.

The fact remains that Chicago is, and remains, far safer than it was a couple of decades ago, with violent crime rates off by about half since their peaks, conditions which, as a life-long resident of the city, are well within my adult memory.

joe_sixpack

(721 posts)
37. Well, CPD Superintendent Garry McCarthy seems to think it's a problem
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:44 PM
Apr 2012
So far this year, there have been 94 murders in Chicago. There were 66 in the same period last year. There have been 408 shootings so far this year, compared to 296 in the same period in 2011.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/19/chicago-police-supt-promises-to-curb-gang-violence/

Surely those numbers don't paint a positive picture for you.
That's from a wbbm news radio 780 article from 19 Mar. I wouldn't classify that as hype. I'm not disputing these numbers compared to anything decades ago. I'm saying that Chicago currently has a serious gang problem and I think the Police Superintendent and even Mayor Rahm Emanuel would agree. As he stated in the same story:

“The violence this past weekend is unacceptable to me and every law abiding Chicago resident,” the mayor said. “Our streets belong to the families and children of our city; not to the gangs and gangbangers. The violence this weekend underscores that Chicago has a unique gang problem and I have discussed with Superintendent McCarthy a citywide anti-gang strategy similar to the successful strategy CPD recently used with the Maniac Latin Disciples.”


I'm from Chicago and frequently talk to people still living there. If you are a current resident and don't believe there's an issue here, then you're the first resident I've talked to who feels that way.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
38. Weather Has Warmed Up Earlier, Sir
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:02 PM
Apr 2012

And the question is not whether levels of violence at present are 'acceptable', but whether they are in fact things that make Chicago a terribly dangerous place. It is not a terribly dangerous place, and even those portions of the city which are most dangerous are safer than they were for many years prior to the present. It suits certain interests to paint a stark and terrific picture of the situation, but the representation they peddle is hysterical.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
24. It will be much safer when every household has at least one gun.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:01 PM
Mar 2012

The NRA taught me that to boost gun sales.

 

Johnson20

(315 posts)
41. Give em hell Snake!!n/t
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:43 AM
Apr 2012

We all know crime of this nature could not occur if there were only stricter gun laws.

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