Israeli fire on Gaza town raises war crimes claim
Source: AP-Excite
By KARIN LAUB and IBRAHIM BARZAK
RAFAH, Gaza Strip (AP) The first of August dawned as a day of promise for the Mahmoum clan and thousands of other Palestinians stuck in United Nations shelters in Rafah thanks to a temporary cease-fire with Israel they could go home for three days.
But the expected respite quickly turned into one of the deadliest and most controversial episodes in the recent war between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. After just two hours, amid fear that Hamas had captured an Israeli soldier, the Israeli military sealed off the Rafah area and began shelling. By the end of the next day, 190 Palestinians were dead, according to a list of names compiled by two Gaza human rights groups, including 14 members of the Mahmoum family.
The Rafah operation is almost certain to be a focus of U.N. investigators and rights groups looking into possible war crimes because it highlights a key concern: The treatment of civilians.
A Palestinian rights group argues that the Israeli army violated the rules of war, which include giving adequate warning to civilians, using proportionate force and distinguishing between civilians and combatants. Unlike in many other Gaza battles, civilians were caught by surprise by the sudden fire and sealed exits.
FULL story at link.
Further down in the story: "If we accidentally or mistakenly targeted a civilian situation, it was a mistake, and we are very sorry about that,"
FILE - In this Saturday, Aug. 2, 2014 file photo, a medic kneels by bodies of victims of the war in Gaza that are wrapped in blankets in a hospital in Rafah, southern Gaza Strip. Amid fear that Hamas had captured an Israeli soldier, the Israeli military sealed off the Rafah area and began shelling on Aug. 1, 2014. By the end of the next day, 190 Palestinians were dead, according to a list of names compiled by two Gaza human rights groups. The suspected capture of the soldier turned out to be a false alarm and the Rafah operation is almost certain to be a focus of U.N. investigators and rights groups looking into possible war crimes because it highlights a key concern: The treatment of civilians. (AP Photo/Hatem Ali, File)
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)IDF never lies, and shuns propaganda of any kind. This entire family dying at the same time is just Hamas militia propaganda.
When the world said "never again" it meant never again.....for everyone, not just Jews.
The double standard of some is shocking. The mass media ignorance of this and many other IDF crimes is also shocking and itself a war crime.
Truly, military experts and fighting men are shocked at the amount of firepower used in a civilian area by the IDF.
"When the world said "never again" it meant never again.....for everyone, not just Jews."
How is that so hard to understand?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Systematic extermination of millions of Jews and others across Europe?
Grey
(1,581 posts)Never again should mean just that. Never anywhere, anyone, any time, any reason.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There should never again be anything like the Nazi Holocaust.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)Please name an army that warns civilians it is about to attack a location. Name it.
7962
(11,841 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Obviously it is not working as most deaths are from noncombatants. If we are looking at percentage of noncombatants vs combatants killed in this conflict, even Hamas is more humane, but I would not call them an army anyway.
The US warned neighborhoods with leaflets in Iraq before attacking, it did not help there either.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)Wow. The U.S. does not warn anybody about anything. Ask the drone victims if they were warned.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)If you want to be objective, you would look at civilian deaths vs soldiers/combatants.
I agree with you on the drone strikes.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)I don't think armies are humane. When I was in the military we were told our mission was "to kill people and break things." I doubt the mission has changed much. But when a poster says the IDF is not the most humane I would like to know who is.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)In the US alone, something in the atmosphere alters our words so that even the mildest utterance of criticism of Israel reaches the listener as "I like Hitler!" Maybe science can help.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There have been innumerable articles, op-eds, and other very critical pieces written about Israel in the US in wide ranging newspapers and sources.
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Instead of hearing what I said, you went defensive. Sure criticism is made, my point is in how that criticism is received.