Israel Claims West Bank Land For Possible Settlement Use, Draws U.S. Rebuke
Source: REUTERS
By Jeffrey Heller
JERUSALEM Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:02pm EDT
(Reuters) - Israel announced on Sunday a land appropriation in the occupied West Bank that an anti-settlement group termed the biggest in 30 years, drawing Palestinian condemnation and a U.S. rebuke.
Some 400 hectares (988 acres) in the Etzion Jewish settlement bloc near Bethlehem were declared "state land, on the instructions of the political echelon" by the military-run Civil Administration.
"We urge the government of Israel to reverse this decision, a State Department official said in Washington, calling the move "counterproductive" to efforts to achieve a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians.
Israel Radio said the step was taken in response to the kidnapping and killing of three Jewish teens by Hamas militants in the area in June.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/31/us-palestinians-israel-settlement-idUSKBN0GV0D020140831
drray23
(7,633 posts)The israeli know pretty well that a rebuke will have zero consequence and they can just ignore it. Until we actually back rhetoric with policy changes nothing will happen.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Like most of the region, eventually there won't be enough fresh water to support the population, even with solar desalination, and it's not as if anyone is going to stop them. The Palestinians will get upset, engage in some pointless gesture of resistance, and Israel will overwhelmingly retaliate.
I don't see a return on investment for the US either way.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Seriously. That's what they intend to do anyway, and not only is nobody going to stop them, we're going to continue to fund their war machine.
Why do we even bother with the "rebuke?" Everybody knows we don't mean it. It's a meaningless gesture that fools nobody.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)...no one wants to call it an final solution.
The Israeli government couldn't care less where the Palestinians go or what happens to them, as long as it isn't anywhere near Israel. They'll keep bombing the Palestinians and annexing their land because even they recognize that simply shipping them out of Gaza and the West Bank in boxcars is a little too cliche evil.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)It just requires mowing the grass once in a while.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)...
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)Heck, in this country, the good ol'USA, you can shoot and kill someone who invades your house and steals your stuff.
But if the Palestinians did this (as in the case mentioned in the OP), the pro-Israeli side would have a conniption fit and hurl all kinds of invective towards them.
In reality, the Palestinians do not have a right to defend themselves from Israeli aggression and when they ever try, the situation is turned on its head and it is always the deemed the Israelis who are doing the 'defending'.
I am finally fed-up with Israeli hypocrisy.
I am no longer a supporter of the Jewish state.
I am in favor of one country called Palestine where everyone residing there are equal citizens, have equal rights, is a truly secular state, and there is one-person-one-vote.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Let that clan of bastards stand on their own!
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)stuff would have resulted in calls for invading to overthrow the regime.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)That'll teach them.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)StoneCarver
(249 posts)I don't agree with OSB - but I do understand what he way saying. He radicalized Muslims using the Palestinians as the poster children of why America doesn't care, is prejudice, and a hypocrite. Every F-16 and M-1 Abrams that rolls into Palestinian territory is not Israeli - but American. The message of 911 is that the attack on our business center and military center -is saying we don't like what you're supporting. If supporting Israel cost us the World trade centers and pentagon I think we know the answer. We don't trade anything with Israel worth that cost -and the multinationals know it. Israel is screwed in the long run - and they just don't realize it. The game will continue for a few more turns and then it's done for Israel. Democracy will come to the middle east -and we don't need Israel for anything. Bless the peaceful Israelis, but screw the crazy Zionists. We use to support a separation of church and state???
Eventually we'll realize that God does NOT love some people more than others, and you don't get to commit genocide because "god loves you more" -in America's name.
Stonecarver
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)and you're right, our support for Israel was possibly the biggest reason we were attcked on 9-11. It certainly wasn't the only reason, though:
Here's the October 29, 2004 video of Osama from Al Jazeera talking about his involvement in 9-11:
with the English transcript from Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2004/11/200849163336457223.html
This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages.
So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed for defending his sanctuary?
Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind, objectionable terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us.
This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed, repeatedly, for years before September 11th.
More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video:
The video is reported to be 18 minutes in length; Osama only speaks for 14 minutes 39 seconds.[1] Al-Jazeera released a transcript of the complete tape on November 1, 2004
... His remarks, in Arabic but addressed to citizens of the United States, instruct them that "the best way to avoid another Manhattan" (a reference to the September 11, 2001 attacks), is to not threaten the security of Muslim nations, such as Palestine and Lebanon.
Osama is clear about his involvement:
The tape also contains bin Laden's first public acknowledgment of al-Qaeda's involvement in the attacks on the U.S., noting that he first thought about attacking the World Trade Center in 1982, after watching Israeli aircraft bomb Lebanon during the 1982 Invasion of Lebanon:"While I was looking at these destroyed towers (by Israel) in Lebanon, it sparked in my mind that the tyrant should be punished with the same and that we should destroy towers in America, so that it tastes what we taste and would be deterred from killing our children and women."
He also admits for the first time a direct link to the attacks, saying that they were carried out because "we are a free people who do not accept injustice, and we want to regain the freedom of our nation". Bin Laden threatens further retaliation against the U.S., noting that the conditions which provoked the 2001 attacks still exist and compares America to "corrupt" Arab governments.
He speaks of his desire to bankrupt the U.S.
lululu
(301 posts)I think Israel will ethnic cleanse the Palestinians completely. Every day in every way, things get worse for the Palestinians. More land is stolen, more homes, farms, and businesses destroyed, more people tortured and slaughtered.
I want to spit when I read the "justifications" the Zionist scum make up. And I am deeply ashamed that the U.S. enables this. If I were President, I would immediately stop anything I had the power to that helps the Israelis.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)I agree with the earlier, post, Israel should just come out and take it all...we all know now what they want. Queue the Israel apologists....
EEO
(1,620 posts)As far as it sees it, it is entitled to whatever it can take.
Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)Because we're Israel's docile colony and many of our leaders are more loyal to Israel than to the country of their residence.
TIME TO DECLARE INDEPENDENCE FROM ISRAEL, INDEPENDENCE FROM AIPAC!!
Wolf
srican69
(1,426 posts)In other words never.
Vine Gatherer
(94 posts)lark
(23,105 posts)The above is an accurate description of Bibi's government. It's been proven Hamas didn't kill those kids and they bloody well know it, this is just another token excuse for what they want to do anyway. So sickening that we provide Israel the means to commit these atrocities.