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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:16 AM Sep 2014

‘Property of US Govt’: Islamic State Jihadists Armed With US Military Weapons

Source: Agence France-Presse

By Agence France-Presse
Monday, September 8, 2014 9:22 EDT

Islamic State fighters appear to be using captured US military issue arms and weapons supplied to moderate rebels in Syria by Saudi Arabia, according to a report published on Monday.

The study by the London-based small-arms research organisation Conflict Armament Research documented weapons seized by Kurdish forces from militants in Iraq and Syria over a 10-day period in July.

The report said the jihadists disposed of “significant quantities” of US-made small arms including M16 assault rifles and included photos showing the markings “Property of US Govt”.

It also found that anti-tank rockets used by IS in Syria were “identical to M79 rockets transferred by Saudi Arabia to forces operating under the Free Syrian Army umbrella in 2013?.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/08/property-of-us-govt-islamic-state-jihadists-armed-with-us-military-weapons/

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‘Property of US Govt’: Islamic State Jihadists Armed With US Military Weapons (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2014 OP
"captured" Autumn Sep 2014 #1
Or perhaps they were sold to IS instead . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #7
Good point. If they sell hostages than for sure they flamingdem Sep 2014 #9
The problem is when we provide weapons to one side or the other in an unstable area Autumn Sep 2014 #13
So true . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #14
Tell this to McGrampy and Ms. Lindsey Graham!!! Assholes will blame the Prez somehow... winstars Sep 2014 #2
Well, he did authorize arms OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #4
As if these guys cant grab the weapons and walk to whatever faction of the week has the best food. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #6
That's what happened. OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #12
They have overrun many military bases in Iraq AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #3
Arm them. Fight them. Make money on both sides. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #5
Funding leimen Sep 2014 #8
Because can't make a fast profit with improving basic infrastructure sarge43 Sep 2014 #10
These assholes will not allow cosmicone Sep 2014 #11
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. Or perhaps they were sold to IS instead . . .
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:18 PM
Sep 2014

At some point along their journey the weapons may have been transferred into the hands of people who value IS money more than they do the defeat of Assad.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
9. Good point. If they sell hostages than for sure they
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:26 PM
Sep 2014

could sell arms among themselves. Though more likely Nusra > Isis or the reverse rather than FSA.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
13. The problem is when we provide weapons to one side or the other in an unstable area
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:50 PM
Sep 2014

this is just what is going to happen.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
14. So true . . .
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:04 PM
Sep 2014

Not that the weapons makers and their privately-owned political hacks give much a damn who ultimately pays their blood money.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
4. Well, he did authorize arms
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:30 PM
Sep 2014

From Wiki:

On 13 June (2013), government officials state that the Obama administration, after days of high-level meetings, has approved providing lethal arms to the Supreme Military Council (SMC). The SMC is a rebel command structure that includes representatives from most major rebel groups, and excludes the Islamic extremist elements. The decision was made shortly after the administration has concluded that the Assad government has used chemical weapons on opposition forces, thus crossing the "red line" drawn by Obama earlier in 2012. The arms will include small arms and ammunition, and possibly anti-tank weapons. However, they will not include anti-aircraft weapons, something repeatedly requested by the armed opposition. Further such weapons would be supplied by the US "on our own timeline". The United States is also considering a no-fly zone in southern Syria, which would allow a safe place to equip and train rebels.

During September 2013, it was reported by US officials that under "a covert CIA program," small arms and anti tank weapons had begun reaching some moderate rebel groups. Although Free Syrian Army Commander Salim Idriss denied receiving lethal aid, some analysts commented that information on US arms may not have reached Idriss due to poor communications as the Free Syrian Army command was based in Northern Syria whilst weapons were reportedly reaching rebel groups in the south.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
6. As if these guys cant grab the weapons and walk to whatever faction of the week has the best food.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:16 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:01 PM - Edit history (1)

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
12. That's what happened.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:39 PM
Sep 2014

The Islamic Front raided warehouses holding the equipment which caused the U.S. to suspend non-lethal deliveries in December 2013. This is the problem when you provide weapons and assistance in unstable regions. You lose control of that equipment as soon as you hand it over and may end up fighting against people armed with your weapons.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
3. They have overrun many military bases in Iraq
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

And taken the weapons, supplied by the USA. More military industrial complex corporate profits!!

leimen

(13 posts)
8. Funding
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

We would make more progress funding education and agriculture in this region than supplying arms to continue the fight. How about putting the money toward basic infrastructure improvements instead of killing implements.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. These assholes will not allow
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:33 PM
Sep 2014

our investments in education and agriculture. Without military intervention and their total annihilation, they will make life impossible to live for peaceful people.

I agree that once they have been substantially eliminated, we should invest in infrastructure and education for the masses.

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