Were gonna have to GOTV and hope for a USSC flip.

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It's fairly obvious to me it was the Bush family trying to set Christie up to eliminate him. It was decided in 2008 that 2016 would be Jeb vs Hillary...Jeb being the preferred candidate and Hillary being the back up plan in case he loses since she is in their pocket. They both disgust me and anyone on our side who supports Hillary is a fool...educate yourself. These two families are close friends and Bush Sr has publicly referred to Bill Clinton as his 5th son since 2000. It was all a charade...theater for the gullible, stupid masses in '92. And Bill was a good soldier covering up for Bush in '93 to allow that administration headed by his son to return to power in 2000 as planned. GW is awful but Hillary makes me want to vomit in my own mouth for pretending to be one of us. I'd rather drop out of politics and hit the streets and town halls than vote for her and hundreds of thousands feel the same way.

Oh please... no one is going to totally satisfy you... they don't satisfy me.. but please do not say they are the same... LOOK AT THE SUPREME COURT.. that by itself should at least make you act in a reasonable way.. I have no time for people that say they are dropping out because the two parties are the same... THEY ARE NOT

No one said the two parties are the same and Im sorry but you must live in a cocoon sheltered from the real world if you cannot see what is happening and be disgusted. Things are very different at the executive level. Jimmy Carter is appalled so why aren't you...he is a much better person than any of these frauds. It is a fact that the Clintons are best buddies with the Bushes and have had a major hand in ruining our party...they sold out to the big banks and oil and weapons corporations by running to the center and the reason everything is crazy now is because this forced the republicans to run further to the right. It is their fault we have these crazed idiots now because they are the ones who moved the center to the right. Its our fault for being dumb enough to ignore our conscience and fall for it yes but as far as Im concerned they don't deserve to wear the name democrat and should never have been allowed in our party to begin with. If your idea of realism is persuading everyone to essentially become a republican (not by name but by actions) then I have no use at all for you either.

I think the only way they don't go with him is if they really think they can't beat who the dems put up (as others here have suggested as well). We see GWB as a war criminal while their party thinks he was amazing (tax breaks). It's no surprise that they would go to that family again.

Yep.. At the expense of our kids... Lets push this one..

We have not forgotten about the last Bush yet.

They can draw a line between the bad Bush and the good Bush. The ongoing reputation rehabbing of Poppy hasn't hurt much, either. Makes let's them think W was just an anomaly in an otherwise distinguished line of public servants.

wait until Jeb another puppet for the Chickenhawks become President.

get under Jeb.

I never want to see or hear from a Bush again.

Scrub as they might people still don't like the Bush brand.

reform, and will do everything in his power to bring the hispanic vote into the republican fold.

There is no way this bush will run on his brothers record.

Our advantage is to remind everyone what his brother did, and how their policies not only caused the financial collapse, but destabilized the entire middle east. Where Jeb will lose it when he tries to defend his brother's administration like he did at the republican convention.

If Hillary runs and wins the nomination, it should bring the women's right vote to our camp. Jeb can back track all he want from the republican platform and the war against women, but it will be very difficult for him to convince them.

However, we should constantly remind people as you said, "Do you really want another bush in the white house"?

Reform stance.
Plus he will take southern sweep with little trouble IMO
Another Bush in the WH ? A 4th could be in the wings too. He already holds office in TX I think

is going to back him, and we have to hit hard and early the moment he announces

But not our last.

I know DU remembers how shitty Junior was, but does the American public?

Doubtful.

A W K W A R D ! ! !




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"Momma said what?!!!"

that is saying a lot.

This is going to be my mantra if he wins the primary.

He looked a bit fat, dumb and happy in his private life .... though this is not the first time I've heard this rumor--it was making the rounds about six months ago, too.

http://themoderatevoice.com/194999/jeb-bush-increasingly-sounds-like-hes-in/

Maybe 4th party, too.

The failure of "electoral" politics would be so starkly unavoidable and obvious, in such a match-up, either voters will stay home in droves, or someone might seize the historical moment to take advantage of the death throes of "two" party politics...

The neo-cons HATE Common Core and will reject him.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/jeb-bush-biggest-nightmare-common-core
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But if Bush runs, he'll have to contend with an obstacle every bit as daunting as his last name—Common Core. His educational nonprofit, the Foundation for Excellence in Education, has been a leading supporter of Common Core, and he has recently joined another group, Conservatives for Higher Standards, to defend the standards against what he calls an "avalanche" of opposition. If that avalanche grows any bigger, it threatens to block any path Bush may have to becoming the Republican Party's 2016 standard-bearer.

Adopted five years ago by 45 states, the guidelines are designed to provide a modicum of standardization across the country, so that a child in Idaho and a child in Florida might reasonably be expected to learn the same things at the same times. From the start, the standards were derided by some conservatives for the expenses they would bring, or as a power grab that would erode local control, water down existing state curricula, or, yes, even brainwash children with leftist material. But it's only in the last two years, as students have begun to take the Core-compliant standardized tests, that parents—and in turn, politicians and key right-leaning news outlets—have begun to take note.

Glenn Beck, who has called Common Core "the biggest story in American history," is writing a book about the standards. Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) signed a letter demanding the federal government stop funding it. Building the Machine, a new anti-Core documentary modeled after the viral video campaign to stop Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony, has been viewed 150,000 times in the two weeks since its release. Fox News bashes it on a daily basis. Even Stephen Colbert has taken on Common Core.

Like any good conspiracy, Common Core has a lot of villains. The standards were conceived in a paper by two men, David Coleman and Jason Zimba, a classicist and a physicist, respectively, who studied together at Oxford as Rhodes Scholars. Development and implementation of the standards was supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which boosted them by pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into state departments of education, school districts, unions, universities, and educational nonprofits. The US Department of Education enticed states to come on board with $4.35 billion in funding from a stimulus program called Race to the Top.

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The clock is ticking...we need a Eugene McCarthy type candidate, and soon.

Have we not had enough of this family? That fact that has not registered with Jeb shows and how little he cares about what we think. He knows any support he might have would be one sided.

Time for all of this family to go elsewhere---anywhere---and be out of the mainstream. Enough!

Seriously, seriously sick.

Despite its notoriety, the Bush name will prove to be an advantage for Jeb for people who choose their candidates the way they choose soft drinks.
And because he's not an obvious buffoon like his brother, people will tragically perceive him as "statesman-like" and "moderate."

Meanwhile, Hillary detractors will attract a strange coalition of knuckle-dragging Bible-addled misogynists, along with genuine anti-war, anti-corporate progressives. The former will almost certainly vote for Jeb. The latter, disgusted by the hair's-breadth difference between the two candidates, will either stay home or vote for a third-party candidate.

Also, I hate to say it, but a lot of America wants a white man back in office.

coupled with the rest of the wars by the peace president, if Bush runs, he wins. And once those boots hit the ground, that will assure his victory even more. We are looking at disaster beyond comprehension.

If this happens, and the 'winner' stays for 2 terms, this would mean that over a 36 year period either a Bush or a Clinton was in office for 28 of those years. What a democracy.

best laugh all day...

The ultra conservatives would hate it. The public isn't ready for another Bush disaster. It would be an easy win for the Democratic party.

Pondered it for a minute, and realized you're talking about the Senate race this year. Can't really imagine it being in play for 2016.

trickle down economics fail

Watching that Ken Burns series on PBS sheds so much light on what is going on YET today with politics in this country. We are in the same basic "game". Different players, but always the powerful corporatist a in control. "We the People" is just a platitude. I think we really do need a second revolution in this country to ever realize change. I'm not suggesting nor promoting it; but we are just spinning our wheels with who the corporatists select for us to chose from.

You will NEVER see any real change from Wall Street or the big corporations. They are only going to appease us with letting us dance in the streets and wave our banners.

Seriously, the man has been politically irrelevant for almost 12 years. Being the only Bush capable of speaking in complete sentences isn't magically going to make him viable.

There's also the matter of him being toxic to the base.

The Bush Family Evil Empire (BFEE) wants a dynasty.

But just how are they going to hush up about Jeb's wife's customs violation and daughter's drug problems?

Overlay audio of W's "can't get fooled again" bit on HW's "No new taxes" video and HW tossing chunks in Japan, any of many pieces of W video and end on slow motion pan of grainy Black and White photo of Jeb looking out from behind W with the dorky look on his face. "Paid for and approved by the Give Us a Fucking Break Committee"

Family of Secrets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Secrets

See also http://www.familyofsecrets.com/

Yet again I will end up voting more against the Rethugs, than for Dems.

They might as well run together on a national unity platform.

"One nation, under Wall Street"

to go fu*k himself.

Good god, NOT another Bush.

So -- Jeb thinks Rand Paul's nomination would be as big a disaster for the GOTP as was Goldwater in 1964??

WTF does he think his own nomination will be? Oh, yes, the GOTP faithful will swoon over another Bush but the rest of the nation will drop him like a bad habit.

Although many of us get nauseous when we hear the "Bush" name, about 40% of the country will vote for him in a match up with any Democrat. The question is will the Independents go for him over Hillary or whoever our candidate is. Depending how the campaign goes, he could be a tough candidate. I still think we win but Jeb might make it interesting.

Where someone is forced to repeat the same hour, over and over again, trying to avoid the same mistakes, except that whatever causes the error is never discovered, never confronted, making the same loop of time go again and again.

Honestly, while I am no fan of Putin's Russia, or Beijing, and not of Isis, there is an ugly fact. If the best that we can offer in 2016 is another Bush and another Clinton, that means our cancers have advanced, and the rest of humanity will know it. The tragedy is that neither the Bushes not the Clintons seem to realize that there was anything wrong with their relatives policies.

Off-topic: my favorite quote "I'm a god, not thee God"



Don't drive angry



The groundhog looks pretty damn angry.

And I think it's more than likely.