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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:17 AM Sep 2014

Four large fireballs reported over eastern U.S. in 'rare' event

Source: Fox 8 Cleveland

Four large fireball events were reported to the American Meteor Society overnight by more than 100 witnesses in what the agency is calling a “rare” occurrence.

According to the AMS website, the fireballs all occurred within 1.5 hours of each other. Nearly 150 reports were made from witnesses including from Ohio and Pennsylvania.

“It is rare that multiple significant fireball events occur and are reported to the AMS in the same evening,” AMS said on its Facebook page.

The events are mapped out below:

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The AMS is asking anyone who may have seen a fireball Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, to fill out an official report.

Read more: http://fox8.com/2014/09/24/four-large-fireballs-reported-over-eastern-u-s-in-rare-event/

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Four large fireballs reported over eastern U.S. in 'rare' event (Original Post) bananas Sep 2014 OP
Comment from Jerry Lee Lewis flamingdem Sep 2014 #1
"We hardly ever see four 'weather balloons' burning in the atmosphere at once!" villager Sep 2014 #2
BWAHAHAHAHA! Octafish Sep 2014 #13
Many articles about this wheniwasincongress Sep 2014 #2
You know it's the spaceships shenmue Sep 2014 #6
Sometimes they are spaceships - Colombia, Mir, Skylab, ... bananas Sep 2014 #9
Almost always a meteor, but occasionally a satellite, booster stage, etc. bananas Sep 2014 #7
I have seen more than a few fiery bolides during meteor showers. longship Sep 2014 #4
"..anyone who may have seen a fireball Tuesday night/Wednesday morning" Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #5
I saw one once about 15 years ago... JohnnyRingo Sep 2014 #8
I did too, about 15 years ago Ratty Sep 2014 #19
Scientist are concerned with city killing fireballs Ichingcarpenter Sep 2014 #10
500 KT is at the upper end of modern nukes Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #23
Bring On The Comets! RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #11
I saw it. roamer65 Sep 2014 #12
The Armada has arrived! Baclava Sep 2014 #22
Have any of the authorities contacted Buckaroo Banzai Alkene Sep 2014 #14
Good job that happened over the Eastern US ... Nihil Sep 2014 #15
I saw the "1972 daylight meteor" FormerOstrich Sep 2014 #16
I saw that from a golf course in Boise IDemo Sep 2014 #17
Watching videos of the fireball in Chelyabinsk... hunter Sep 2014 #18
Heck those were just Nascar Backfires! oooooob Sep 2014 #20
what? gopiscrap Sep 2014 #21
Here is the AMS map showing many of the sighting vectors for Event 2306. John1956PA Sep 2014 #24

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
2. Many articles about this
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:51 AM
Sep 2014

have failed to mention that a fireball is just a really bright meteor. Some articles describe them as "mysterious." Great.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
9. Sometimes they are spaceships - Colombia, Mir, Skylab, ...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:41 AM
Sep 2014

We lucked out with Apollo 13.
It's gonna be pretty cool when the ISS comes down, as long as nobodies in it.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
7. Almost always a meteor, but occasionally a satellite, booster stage, etc.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:30 AM
Sep 2014

For example earlier this month:

http://gizmodo.com/oh-cool-that-fireball-over-the-us-was-just-a-russian-s-1635775289

Oh Cool, That Fireball Over the US Was Just a Russian Spy Satellite
Kelsey Campbell-Dollaghan
9/17/14

Relax, guys. That fireball from a few weeks ago? You know, the "rocks with glowing red and orange streaks" that everyone noticed one night? Experts agree it was just a Russian spy satellite breaking up over the Rockies. Everything's fine, nothing to see here.

The fireball was seen the night of September 2nd, according to dozens of reports from around Colorado, New Mexico, and Montana, seen on this American Meteorological Society and Spaceflight101 map. Today, the AP published a report from a number of experts who all say it was part of a Russian satellite designed to shoot images and send them back to Earth. The AP helpfully lays out this news in a question/answer format, starting with Wait, Russia is still spying on us?!, to which experts answered "duh:"

Yes. They're basically spying on the same things they kept an eye on during the Cold War, said John Pike, director of Globalsecurity.org. "Deployed hardware, airplanes, ships, tanks, factories, new intelligence facilities, all that stuff," he said. The satellites are looking for targets for their nuclear weapons, Pike said. "They're looking for the same things that our spy satellites are looking for."


That's really no huge surprise, in reality. We have hundreds of satellites, Russia has also has hundreds, and the rest of the world is launching more every day. According to Russian news and Spaceflight101, this particular satellite was called Kosmos 2495, and was similar in design to this craft:

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longship

(40,416 posts)
4. I have seen more than a few fiery bolides during meteor showers.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:55 AM
Sep 2014

They are spectacular. What may seem amazing is that about a hundred tons of meteorites hit the Earth every fucking single day. So It is not amazing that this is not a rare occurrence.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
5. "..anyone who may have seen a fireball Tuesday night/Wednesday morning"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:00 AM
Sep 2014

You just KNOW college guys are filling out reports from lighting farts.

JohnnyRingo

(18,649 posts)
8. I saw one once about 15 years ago...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:37 AM
Sep 2014

Many think it's like a "shooting star" or a meteor that briefly streaks across the sky, but it isn't. The one I saw seemed quite low, slow, and huge. It moved past us as we drove and the tail changed colors and length from a dim white to yellow and finally bright green, before it disappeared beyond the tree line. It seemed to light up the sky around us.

If you ever see one, you'll know the difference between an awe inspiring fireball and a common meteor sighting. I can see how many may think it's a spaceship. I just happen to live near where these four appeared. I really wish I'd seen them.

Thanx for posting!

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
19. I did too, about 15 years ago
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:34 PM
Sep 2014

I noticed the bathroom window flickering orange while I was brushing my teeth. When I looked out I saw the fireball and it was pretty slow. I also noticed a thick trail of smoke behind it. And yes, it was pretty big - like a flaming basketball. I ran out of the bathroom and babbled something to my family along the lines of "look, look, there's something ..." They followed me out but by then it was gone.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. Scientist are concerned with city killing fireballs
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:49 AM
Sep 2014

In February 2013, a large asteroid ripped over the Chelyabinsk district of Russia, trailing cartoonish lines of smoke as it made its shallow entry, radiating so much light and heat that onlookers were left with reddened faces. Skin peel. When the asteroid exploded, 15 miles up, there was a terrible, prolonged bang – a noise that has rung on, in its way, ever since.


We now know that the explosion over Chelyabinsk occurred with a force equal to 500 kilotons of TNT, or a couple of dozen Nagasaki bombs


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a Nasa scientist called Bill Cooke said the likely frequency of such meteor strikes was being re-evaluated. That month, a trio of studies published in the journals Nature and Science suggested impacts of Chelyabinsk's magnitude were between three and 10 times more likely to happen than previously supposed.

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Chelyabinsk in 2013. Sudan in 2008. Impacts over Indonesia, Egypt, Australia, Argentina, California and Finland; four in the north Pacific and three in the south, two in the south Atlantic and one in the north, four in the Indian Ocean, one in the Med, one in the Arabian Sea, one in the Tasman and one off Antarctica. Call them what you like – "city‑killers" or "pesky ones" – there have been 26 meteorite strikes since the turn of the century that were large enough to cause a kiloton-class pop.

Lu believes we should be worried by that.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/sep/20/asteroids-rock-hard-place-meteor-strike-russia-nicaragua

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
23. 500 KT is at the upper end of modern nukes
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:03 PM
Sep 2014

More precise targeting is my understanding . . . what a relief.

I buy it. Similar to the preliminary findings that massive Tsunami caused my an impact event may be much more frequent than previously thought.

We have built a a complex industrial society on about 200 years of quality geophysical data when it comes to these types of events.

A Chelyabinsk event at a lower altitude over Manhattan Island 500 years ago . . . a few villages wiped out. Today, a really really really big village wiped out.

A 2000 yr event really means a 1/2000 chance of an event happening any given year.





Alkene

(752 posts)
14. Have any of the authorities contacted Buckaroo Banzai
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:23 AM
Sep 2014

and The Hong Kong Cavaliers?

"Nothing is ever what it seems, but everything is exactly what it is."
- B. Banzai

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
15. Good job that happened over the Eastern US ...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:49 AM
Sep 2014

... rather than over Ukraine, Syria, Pakistan, Korea, ...



FormerOstrich

(2,703 posts)
16. I saw the "1972 daylight meteor"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:02 AM
Sep 2014

and I'll never forget it. I saw it in Idaho Falls, Idaho.

This clip of the meteor better represents my memory of the meteor than the pictures of it on NASA and elsewhere on the web.

I cutout an article in the paper the next day and still have the clipping.

I was in a park when I saw it. Everyone in the park watched and didn't say a word.

I'll never forget it.


IDemo

(16,926 posts)
17. I saw that from a golf course in Boise
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:09 AM
Sep 2014

A woman here reported that she thought she'd seen aliens bailing out (because several small fragments broke off).

My Astronomy Magazine later advised that the rock had skimmed Earth's atmosphere and re-entered space. That's what I call a close shave.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
18. Watching videos of the fireball in Chelyabinsk...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:30 AM
Sep 2014

... I'll remember those things can cause a nasty sonic boom and move away from any windows.

I'd hate to be on a city street if that happened, surrounded by buildings covered in glass.

After seeing the tsunami videos I'll pay similar attention if I'm at the beach and the surf gets all weird.

What strikes me as odd is that people still support trigger-happy police forces, and still drive around in cars even after watching horrific videos of police shootings and car accidents.

We are remarkably resistant to responding to dangers we somehow accept as "normal."

There will probably be people here in the U.S.A. who will still be denying mankind has caused global warming even as they themselves become climate change refugees and are forced to leave their homes.


 

oooooob

(30 posts)
20. Heck those were just Nascar Backfires!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014

Or maybe it was some anti, Mid-Western's lobbing fire bombs into the cities.......kind of like the Palestinians do.

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