Breaking news: a video showing the killing of Alan Henning, the British man being held hostage by Is
Source: Guardian
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Assholes
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)of legend rather than the Moors and Saracens of history.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)but traditionally they have a fearsome reputation.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Just waiting for the excuses that will be made to deflect the blame from the killers and how it's really the fault of the mean old United States.
frylock
(34,825 posts)they probably hate us for our freedom fries or something.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)across the border and killed my wife and daughter, I would hunt him down if it cost a million dollars. And when I found him.... (better not say). And those in IS, many in Iraq and Syria feel the same way about the United States. These people will count the days until their revenge, and their list grows with every American ancillary death.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Some powerful group has deliberately incubated this ideology and coupled it with a sophisticated social media and indoctrination campaign.
It could well be that it's spun out of control.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)In fact, thinking about it, there are probably different groups in different countries trying to steer this monster to their own advantage.
However, I think it's going to backfire on some of them.
AnalystInParadise
(1,832 posts)This is nihilism married with charismatic leaders and the ability to offer all those who are mentally warped the ability to do as they please under the guise of faith.. There is no greater hand guiding these guys, it is lunacy in full bloom.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Thank you.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Did Alan Henning harm anyone? The savages that are doing all this killing and beheading do it because they like doing it.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)and the fact that these guys are psychopaths. Let's not forget they are Al Qaida rejects.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Orders from their lizard brains, most following their upbringing to believe that killing those different from you is just honky dory. Remove those that teach the hate and replace them with scientific humanists.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)of someone else. That's how it works--and will continue to work.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)After all, they will only be paying for the actions of someone else, which you find perfectly acceptable here, where a man is deliberately killed by people who claim to be affronted by U.S. and English actions. Indeed, should England react to this by, say, deciding to bomb some nearby town until it was reasonably certain several hundred Moslems had been killed, you would have no leg whatever to stand on in denouncing the action, since, after all, they would simply have 'paid for the actions of someone else' which is 'how it works -- and will continue to work'....
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Thank you.
frylock
(34,825 posts)USA! USA! USA!
Find a new shtick.
Same ol' same ol' - it's all America's fault.
frylock
(34,825 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"i can't imagine what's led to all this unrest in Iraq..."
Sikes-Picot Accord.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)We can't blame Sikes-Picot for foreign fighters inspired by social media.
Sykes-Picot Agreement
24601
(3,962 posts)postwar nations/borders had to be abolished.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Metaphorically speaking, Say there was a Muslim household with parents a daughter and two sons, and one son is a moderate and believes in compromise and one has more extreme anti-American views. One day a "Christian" American force from far away makes up a storyline in order to justify an invasion into the neighbourhood. They burst in the house shooting and when the dust settles the parents and sister lie dead. The brothers escape. Which brother's point of view will win over the other do you think?
To say that the radicalization of that part of the world, and the rise of extremism, has nothing to do with the USA's foreign policies through the decades is preposterous.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Balance fallacy.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)not just white Christians. We are all part of a big dysfunctional family, and when one part has a grievance against another part, you either address it or else watch your family grow further apart.
Sorry that we aren't going to board your hatred train.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)No excuses at all eh? So if it was an Islamic country that invaded and tortured Americans in the US for almost 10 years, (a Fox News dream) and that scenario happened in your house, and later a militia of rebel Americans showed up and asked you to join, you'd sit back and say.."I think we should just relax and listen to our Muslim overlords, they know what they're doing." And if a few of the more extreme in that militia brutally murder some Muslims they find, you'd be shocked and disgusted and put no blame whatsoever on the brutality of the invading forces. Have I got that about right?
Stick your head in the sand again.
Deny and Shred
(1,061 posts)Can't imagine why. Maybe they are simply following our previous leader : Bring It On. How dare they actually do it a few years later. Seriously, what are they thinking?
Its not like an unfounded decade-long instability took place, or that unaccountable mercenaries have been playing Army Man, cop and torturer with their neighbors and families. I mean, the paid mercenaries were our guys, not 'savages.'
I am still waiting for the excuse of the killing of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis at the hands of the US. I know you'd think it a flimsly excuse, but maybe one could be provided?.
I'm sure you would live and let live though, BSG, if your nephew's wedding had been drone-striked because an atendee got a cell call once from a "known terrorist."
Beheadings that can be counted on one hand trump hundreds of thousands killed. Everybody knows that.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Deny and Shred
(1,061 posts)What was the excuse to destabilize the region?
What is your excuse for ignoring the last 12 years?
Why are you apologizing for Bush?
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I doubt the reboot will be any different.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Lobo27
(753 posts)Wahabists and what not. I wonder what the Saudi Government has any plans against IS. Though, Cenk says that half the royal family endorses wahabism, and the other side doesn't. Also mentions if the King dies shit might really hit the fan.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)He seemed like a really good guy.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He seemed like a really wonderful guy.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)eg Abu Qatada, or the mentor of al-Zarqawi: http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/09/20/jihadi-ideologue-calls-for-freeing-british-hostage
quadrature
(2,049 posts)....................
(sarcasm)
perhaps we should destabilize
a few more countries.
any suggestions?
extra credit if conflict helps to
spread Ebola