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alp227

(32,048 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:24 AM Oct 2014

Pot, immigration trip up governor, Senate candidates in Denver debates

Source: Denver Post

Colorado voters were "reckless" for legalizing retail marijuana, Gov. John Hickenlooper said Monday, during a pair of debates marked by candidates who dealt with uneasy positions and pivots. "I'm not saying it was reckless because I'll get quoted everywhere, but if it was up to me, I wouldn't have done it, right?" he said during the Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce debates. "I opposed it from the very beginning. Oh, what the hell, I'll say it was reckless."

The lunchtime debates between Hickenlooper and his gubernatorial challenger Bob Beauprez, and later Sen. Mark Udall and his Senate challenger Rep. Cory Gardner, were meant to focus on economic issues.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/election2014/ci_26675634/pot-immigration-trip-up-governor-senate-candidates-denver



I'll break the four-paragraph limit to show how both Beauprez and Gardner appear to soften their immigration stances. They appear to pander to Latino voters for an election year:

Beauprez — who has long said he doesn't support amnesty-style solutions — said Monday he did not support requiring people in the United States who are here illegally to go back to their home countries before re-entering legally.

"I don't think that's necessary at all in the era we live in today," he said.

That, however, conflicts with what Beauprez wrote on his blog, A Line of Sight, in 2007, when he called sending immigrants home a "cleansing process."

Gardner said Monday he supports the DREAM Act, federal legislation that would grant permanent residency to qualified children of immigrants here illegally for the purpose of attending college or joining the military, as part of immigration reform.


A quick google search returns a Breitbart News article titled "Cory Gardner Runs Left On Immigration." And there ya go.

Not the first time Gardner has backpedaled on a wedge issue to appear more moderate to a left-leaning voter base. Back in May, he disavowed his support for a fetal personhood law.

I don't need to be a conservative to see what phonies Beauprez and Gardner are.
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Pot, immigration trip up governor, Senate candidates in Denver debates (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2014 OP
So that whole Pot Legalization thing hasn't worked out well for Colorado? So much so that the Cha Oct 2014 #1
He's always been against it NT Ex Lurker Oct 2014 #2
Thanks for clarifying, EL.. too bad Hickenlooper. how bizarre. Cha Oct 2014 #6
He's pro alcohol. bluedigger Oct 2014 #4
Tsk and shame on Hickenlooper.. "alcohol".. what a disappointment. Cha Oct 2014 #5
lol--for sure! librechik Oct 2014 #13
I don't know why Scairp Oct 2014 #15
True that locks Oct 2014 #16
I'm still a fan of the guy, but I think the government dropped the ball a bit on implementing Exultant Democracy Oct 2014 #3
What problems are you seeing? politicat Oct 2014 #9
Legalization of MJ was probably the best thing that has happened to Colorado in years. world wide wally Oct 2014 #7
The best thing about Hick, he's not Beauprez mountain grammy Oct 2014 #8
i'm right there with you fizzgig Oct 2014 #10
this is correct. librechik Oct 2014 #14
Exactly DavidDvorkin Oct 2014 #17
at this point, I'm mostly voting against ole buckaroo Bob. politicat Oct 2014 #11
hick's a disappointment in a lot of ways fizzgig Oct 2014 #12

Cha

(297,626 posts)
1. So that whole Pot Legalization thing hasn't worked out well for Colorado? So much so that the
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:40 AM
Oct 2014

Dem gov has to call it "reckless"?!

mahalo alp

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
4. He's pro alcohol.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 03:00 AM
Oct 2014

His money is in alcohol. It's all about self interest for him when it comes to pot.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
15. I don't know why
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 03:55 PM
Oct 2014

People are still gonna drink, even if they can get pot legally. His product is the one that should be banned. It so often lead to death, destruction and addiction where pot doesn't cause any of those. It's so screwed up that weed is the unacceptable substance while alcohol and it's serious health issues continues to be socially acceptable. One day maybe it will be the reverse.

locks

(2,012 posts)
16. True that
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:57 PM
Oct 2014

Colorado is plastered with alcohol ads, beer festivals and the "grand opening" of a new brewery or fun bar almost every week. Part of this is because Hick is a beer man and Coors has so much influence. We also have drunk driving accidents every day but never hear about a "pot" accident. And CU just decided to have alcohol at football games, just what we need, more student binge drinking. As compared to alcohol pot has brought no problems to Colorado.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
3. I'm still a fan of the guy, but I think the government dropped the ball a bit on implementing
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 02:44 AM
Oct 2014

the will of the voters when it came to legalization. Time will tell but it looks like Washington's plan for legalization was done in a far better manner, but I think we need more time to even judge that for sure.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
9. What problems are you seeing?
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:26 PM
Oct 2014

As implementations go, I'm seeing fewer issues than in most software deployments; the only major one being the banking issue, but that's federal and not in the state's control. (A credit union or a financial co-op would have been optimal, but so it goes.)

Colorado was the beta test; Washington had the advantage of a system in place to observe.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
7. Legalization of MJ was probably the best thing that has happened to Colorado in years.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 03:45 AM
Oct 2014

It has raised tax revenues through the roof at a time when we needed it bad and people are moving here from all over the country. Why won't these idiots own it and see how the voters respond to that since they voted it in to begin with?

librechik

(30,676 posts)
14. this is correct.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:58 PM
Oct 2014

besides, I have it straight from inside sources that Hick is EXTREMELY liberal, altho will never show it publicly. Too bad.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
11. at this point, I'm mostly voting against ole buckaroo Bob.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:32 PM
Oct 2014

I want to like Hick, but the silver feet in his mouth detract. Dude: will of the people - 68% is unequivocal. Also, home rule means something here - if cities and counties don't want your oil budz in their backyards, they have the right to say so, and hissies ain't cool.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
12. hick's a disappointment in a lot of ways
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:35 PM
Oct 2014

my vote is probably more against beauprez than for hickenlooper.

the sky hasn't fallen here and gods know we need the tax revenue. my big complaint with the whole thing is the pricing, that doesn't help with pulling it off the black market when $60 gets me an 1/8th at a store and $65 gets me a quarter from my dude.

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