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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:50 PM Oct 2014

US Seeking To Confirm If Islamic State Militants Used Chlorine Gas

Source: Agence France-Presse 24 Oct 2014 at 15:05 ET

Washington is seeking more information on reports that Islamic State militants used chlorine gas against Iraqi police officers last month, US Secretary of State John Kerry said Friday. The top US diplomat told reporters he could not confirm the reports, but said the United States took all such “allegations very seriously.”

The Washington Post reported Friday that 11 Iraqi police offices had been rushed to a hospital some 50 miles (80 kilometers) north of Baghdad last month suffering from dizziness, vomiting and shortage of breath. They were diagnosed as having been the victims of a poisoned gas attack allegedly unleashed by militants from the Islamic State group.

Iraqi forces said two other crude chlorine gas attacks have occurred since the summer, but the Post said the details were unclear. “No, I am not in a position to confirm” the report, Kerry told reporters after meeting with his South Korean counterpart Yun Byung-se. “We are seeking additional information in order to be able to determine whether or not we can confirm it,” he added.

“The use of any chemical weapons is an abhorrent act, it’s against international law, and these recent allegations underscore the importance of the work that we are currently engaged in.” But the top US diplomat stressed the reports would not change the US strategy as it builds a coalition to fight IS militants who have seized control of a large area of Iraq and Syria. It might affect “tactical decisions” taken as part of the strategy, but the US is “step-by-step bringing the coalition further down the road to being able to shore up the Iraqi army itself and to take measures against ISIL,” Kerry said, using another acronym by which the group is known.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/us-seeking-to-confirm-if-islamic-state-militants-used-chlorine-gas/

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US Seeking To Confirm If Islamic State Militants Used Chlorine Gas (Original Post) big_dog Oct 2014 OP
Seems pretty easy to do Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #1
Ridiculous comment karynnj Oct 2014 #2
No, but the munitions (shells) Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #3
Those Have Nothing To Do With Chlorine. Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #4
Again, Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #5
And Again, Sir, Nobody Cares: It Makes No Difference To The Act The Magistrate Oct 2014 #6
Curious Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #7
+1 nt candelista Oct 2014 #8
What difference does it make? Baclava Oct 2014 #9
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. No, but the munitions (shells)
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:47 PM
Oct 2014

that are now turning up in Iraq are U.S. designed and of European manufacture.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

So, if the U.S. doesn't want people using chemical weapons, it should not make them, their designs, precursors or manufacturing technology available to other governments. It also probably shouldn't use them on its own people:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/14/tear-gas-is-a-chemical-weapon-banned-in-war-but-ferguson-police-shoot-it-at-protesters/

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
4. Those Have Nothing To Do With Chlorine. Sir
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:14 PM
Oct 2014

And the condition they are in renders them more dangerous to anyone attempting to use them than they would likely be to any intended target.

This sort of reflexive 'let's toss some mud at the U.S. when anyone else does something' is foolish and destructive. Indeed, the penchant of people on the left for indulging in it is one of the leading reasons 'why we can't have nice things' like national health care, a proper tax structure, strong unions, and a more equitable and less violent society. It allows people on the right to make a credible claim that 'the left just hates America', and so by extension tar anything the left supports or recommends or desires as 'bad for America', since people who 'hate America' would only wish for things that would do harm to the country....

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
5. Again,
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:34 PM
Oct 2014

when you have broken all the rules, what moral authority do you have to tell other people what is and isn't acceptable? If beheading is so horrible, why haven't we invaded Saudi Arabia. Tear gas is banned by treaty, and yet he U.S. uses it on its own people all the time. Is that legal, well yes, since we specifically made sure that police use was legalized while military use was not. Does it make a difference morally speaking? No it doesn't.

But by all means, keep making legalistic justifications for America's sins, sir!

Also, why are we the ones that have to do all the bombing when the Saudis have a perfectly good air force collecting dust on the ground? I would think that any TRUE patriot would aspire for the country to be something other than Saudi Arabia's hired goon squad.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
6. And Again, Sir, Nobody Cares: It Makes No Difference To The Act
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:47 PM
Oct 2014

The man in the dock does not get to complain that others have committed the same crime, and are not there with him.

None of what you say has any bearing on the question of whether the charge against the I.S.I.L. is accurate or not. On that question, I have no particular view: it may be true, it may not. It would not alter my view of the that body either way. I consider I.S.I.L. to be a body of fundamentalist ideologues in arms it is necessary to break and bring to heel. I support the use of military force to do so, and I do that knowing full well not every person killed or injured in doing so will be an adherent of that body, or even a combatant member of it.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. Curious
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:37 PM
Oct 2014

You are perfectly willing to sacrifice other innocent people's lives for a strategy that has always failed to accomplish anything other than making matters worse. I am guessing you would feel differently if someone were using your argument to justify killing people you care about.

But, whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
9. What difference does it make?
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:22 AM
Oct 2014

Hillary would send in the B-52's with napalm bombs.



well, that's what I heard

how hard can U swing to the right?

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