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muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 08:11 AM Oct 2014

UK axes support for Mediterranean migrant rescue operation

Source: Guardian

Britain will not support any future search and rescue operations to prevent migrants and refugees drowning in the Mediterranean, claiming they simply encourage more people to attempt the dangerous sea crossing, Foreign Office ministers have quietly announced.
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The British refusal comes as the official Italian sea and rescue operation, Mare Nostrum, is due to end this week after contributing over the past 12 months to the rescue of an estimated 150,000 people since the Lampedusa tragedies in which 500 migrants died in October 2013.
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Instead of the Italian operation, a limited joint EU “border protection” operation, codenamed Triton and managed by Frontex, the European border agency, is to be launched on 1 November. Crucially, it will not include search and rescue operations across the Mediterranean, just patrols within 30 miles of the Italian coast.
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The Home Office told the Guardian the government was not taking part in Operation Triton at present beyond providing one “debriefer” – a single immigration officer – to gather intelligence about the migrants who continue to make the dangerous journey to Italy.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/27/uk-mediterranean-migrant-rescue-plan



Shameful. The EU is going to do less patrols, and the British government is not lifting a finger to help in even that limited operation.
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UK axes support for Mediterranean migrant rescue operation (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 OP
The Civilized World strikes again rpannier Oct 2014 #1
Disgusting. LeftishBrit Oct 2014 #2
YMMV Nihil Oct 2014 #4
yeah I kinda agree the this should be left up to the Mediterranean countries.. EX500rider Oct 2014 #5
Agreed. Why is no one complaining that the U.S. isn't helping these migrants? Or China? E-Z-B Oct 2014 #6
U.S. Navy Rescues 282 Migrants In The Mediterranean Sea pampango Oct 2014 #8
Because we're in the EU muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #7
Not if UKIP has its way. "No man is an island" and "We're all in this together" are liberal attitude pampango Oct 2014 #9
If I were British, branford Oct 2014 #10
There is a common foreign and security policy, with a High Representative muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #12
I think there's a lot more to the British decision to end search and rescue operations. branford Oct 2014 #3

rpannier

(24,341 posts)
1. The Civilized World strikes again
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 08:21 AM
Oct 2014

Remember this the next time the Brits throw out how much more civilized they are

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
2. Disgusting.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 10:26 AM
Oct 2014

People don't 'attempt the dangerous sea crossing' for some sort of adventure holiday FFS!!! These are DESPERATE people.

The British government has never been great on such issues, but right now they are utterly craven in the face of UKIP.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
4. YMMV
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:39 AM
Oct 2014

I fail to see why we should continue to spend our taxpayers money and risk our servicemen & women's lives
for the sake of assisting suicidal wannabe-illegal immigrants in crossing from one "not our country" to
another "not our country".



EX500rider

(10,874 posts)
5. yeah I kinda agree the this should be left up to the Mediterranean countries..
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 12:30 PM
Oct 2014

...as the UK only has a very small footprint in Gibraltar.

Why not get mad at the US or Japan or Canada for not helping out also?

Seems to be more a matter for France, Italy, Greece, etc..

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
7. Because we're in the EU
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 01:10 PM
Oct 2014

and we have agreed to work together in foreign policy and immigration. Because "our servicemen & women's lives" aren't part of this anyway. And because it would save lives. "No man is an island".

pampango

(24,692 posts)
9. Not if UKIP has its way. "No man is an island" and "We're all in this together" are liberal attitude
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 02:04 PM
Oct 2014

that don't have much to do with UKIP and their policies.

If UKIP has its way eventually, the British navy would no longer help patrol the Mediterranean, though UKIP would probably have it patrolling the English Channel to prevent any of the refugees who are legally admitted to the rest of Europe from getting into the UK.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
10. If I were British,
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 02:14 PM
Oct 2014

I might suggest that there is no unified EU military or foreign policy, nor do British citizens apparently want such policies or institutions, and the British navy fist and foremost serves the interests of British citizens at the direction of her elected representative, who apparently believed they have already offered sufficient search and rescue assistance.

Moreover, countries other than Britain and France might consider investing more money into their navies in order to deal with problems such as the migrants in the Mediterranean, rather than make costly demands of Britain, and then take such assistance entirely for granted. This point might be all the more pertinent now that the EU has just demanded billions of Euros more in payments from Britain and migrant labor is a political hot potato in Britain due to claims it depresses wages in the country.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
11. There is a common foreign and security policy, with a High Representative
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 02:24 PM
Oct 2014
http://eeas.europa.eu/cfsp/index_en.htm

Catherine Ashton has done a fairly decent job, being prominent in various peace talks.

British citizens do have the ability to be shameful. Too many of them can contemplate supporting UKIP. That doesn't mean governments should pander to them.

"countries other than Britain and France might consider investing more money into their navies in order to deal with problems such as the migrants in the Mediterranean"

They do. It's just that Britain is washing its hands of it all, rather than pulling its weight, either financially or with personnel.

Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #2)

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
3. I think there's a lot more to the British decision to end search and rescue operations.
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:07 PM
Oct 2014

Illegal immigration and foreign workers are politically very unpopular in Britain, the current government is fighting growing opposition from UKIP on the right, and the operations are very expensive and not in British territorial waters. The EU is also unpopular in Britain and they just recently demanded an additional couple of billion in payments from the British taxpayers, while seeking to refund monies to France and Germany. Since Britain possesses one of the only major navies in the EU, they might be sending a message to Brussels about the importance of Britain and British concerns in the EU.

Don't be surprised if Britain later agrees to further assistance in the Mediterranean in consideration for political support for British domestic concerns from southern European countries and something akin to a "reimbursement" for British expenses in support of rescue operation to offset the billions of new revenue demanded by the EU.

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