Hagel approves 21-day Ebola quarantine for troops
Source: AP-Excite
By ROBERT BURNS
WASHINGTON (AP) Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Wednesday approved a recommendation by military leaders that all U.S. troops returning from Ebola response missions in West Africa be kept in supervised isolation for 21 days.
The move goes beyond precautions recommended by the Obama administration for civilians, although President Barack Obama has made clear he feels the military's situation is different from that of civilians, in part because troops are not in West Africa by choice.
Hagel said he acted in response to a recommendation sent to him Tuesday by Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on behalf of the heads of each of the military services. They cited numerous factors, including concerns among military families and the communities from which troops are deploying for the Ebola response mission.
In explaining his decision, Hagel noted that the military has more people in Africa helping with the Ebola effort than any other segment of the U.S. government.
FULL story at link.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel speaks at the sixth annual "Washington Ideas Forum" in Washington, Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2014. Hagel has approved a recommendation by military leaders that all U.S. troops returning from Ebola response missions in West Africa be kept in supervised isolation for 21 days. The move goes beyond precautions recommended by the Obama administration for civilians, although President Barack Obama has made clear he feels the military's situation is different from that of civilians, in part because troops are not in West Africa by choice. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
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MADem
(135,425 posts)It's not a great vacation, but at least you're not using your leave. With internet access and cable tv, it would be entirely bearable.
Military get paid no matter what; you're breathing (or MIA) you are getting paid--civilians don't have that luxury.
Darb
(2,807 posts)the legal authority.
New Jersey has neither.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,355 posts)"They shouldn't have been sent here, they should do their quarantine for Ebola at home," said the president of the region's assembly, Luca Zaia, insisting "it would have been more respectful" of the United States to have "thought about the risks posed to local citizens".
The Messaggero daily spoke of fears among the local population, with a rise in the number of calls to the emergency services from worried citizens.
Soldiers from the base being given a wide berth in nearby pubs.
http://www.thelocal.it/20141029/us-soldiers-ebola-quarantine-in-italy-sparks-alarm
Darb
(2,807 posts)It is apparently not just an American phenomena.
Did you read the comments? They are worse than the Yahoo trolls. Or they ARE the Yahoo trolls.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)As originally envisioned, Pentagon policy called for troops returning to their home bases from Ebola response missions to undergo temperature checks twice a day for 21 days to ensure they are free of Ebola symptoms and would not be permitted to travel widely. But they were not to be quarantined and kept from contact with others.
The Army, however, acting on its own this week, put a small number of returning soldiers in a 21-day quarantine in Italy. That group was the first to return from West Africa after Ebola duty.
1. The military can do pretty much what it wants, or rather treats its people much differently than civilians. Military people have different rights than civilians.
2. Them being there not "by choice", I do not understand what this matters.
3. I do not see a reason to quarantine, seems monitoring would be enough, like the middle paragraph quoted above.
4. They should quarantine them in the USA if anywhere, not sure why that "small number" are quarantined in Italy. I'd like to know more about what that means, where they are and why.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)Just ask any cop. They'll gun you down in the street for no reason if they feel like it, and their brothers-in-blue will stand behind them every step of the way.
branford
(4,462 posts)that one of the reasons why the military wants a quarantine is that they do not completely trust the young soldiers to effectively and honestly self-monitor.
If true, that is an interesting point. However, for any national politician to publicly make such a disparaging claim about our troops would be political suicide, no less within a week of a hotly contested election.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Not comparing to health care workers, but travelers entering the USA from the 3 countries. Comparing to HCW will open another can of worms which I don't want to do.
branford
(4,462 posts)is popular with many people, and on a bipartisan basis.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)coming into the USA from there.
I also know experts advise against such a travel ban, saying it would not work and would be a negative thing.
Media exists to see ad time, and fear sells.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)They don't have a choice on vaccinations, either.
diabeticman
(3,121 posts)I am so sick and tired of dumb.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Yet the federal govt doesn't see fit to quarantine nurses who have had direct contact with patients. It doesn't make sense, unless the miltary knows something we don't. I'm not posing a conspiracy theory, just pointing out that if it is safe for a nurse who directly cared for an ebola patient, why can't a soldier who was just in the area with no contact??
The mind boggles.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)it's hard for commanders to know whether any of their troops have come in contact with any (potentially diseased) locals, and to what extent, unless they've all been strictly confined to the base. So it's a practical safeguard to tack on a quarantine period for returning members--it's simply an order like all the others they follow.
branford
(4,462 posts)who definitely were exposed to the virus, should also face a mandatory quarantine upon their return, as a simple "practical safeguard" to protect the public. Of course, this would not comply with expressed scientific fact that asymptomatic pose no threat to the public.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)necessary. The military is a different set-up, lots of young enlisteds living in communal situations/dorms/barracks with shared facilities and close quarters, so a home quarantine situation probably isn't applicable.
branford
(4,462 posts)I admit that I thought you may have believed the soldiers should face a quarantine, but not the civilian aid workers.
If your only distinction is really the terms and conditions of confinement, your position is certainly consistent, unlike our president.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)ridiculous and selfish. I can understand not being happy in a tent, but they should be comfortable with staying home.
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)What has been the President's inconsistency on this matter? Please tell!
branford
(4,462 posts)who we are told did not work directly with Ebola-infected patients, are a greater risk to the public and require a mandatory quarantine, but returning civilian workers, who were actually exposed to the virus, should not face a mandatory quarantine?
The president has explicitly stated that the only basis for any quarantine decisions should be actual medical necessity, and that anyone who is asymptomatic need not be quarantined. If both the returning troops and civilians are both asymptomatic, why should the soldiers be quarantined but not the civilians?
I also fully understand that the president has greater legal authority to restrict the soldiers, but that has no bearing on whether the restrictions are scientifically justified. Any justification other than medical risk violates the president's own expressed standards, and if the recommendations of the military brass to the president are inconsistent with the science, they should be ignored or countermanded. Recruitment difficulties by various medical NGO's similarly have no effect on the contagiousness or risk of either the returning soldiers or civilians.
Until such time that someone of sufficient authority from the executive branch resolves this medical conundrum, it appears to be hypocrisy on the part of the president.
It appears that both the soldiers and civilians need only self-monitor, yet the president has, at the very least, acquiesced to a mandatory quarantine of the troops, all while criticizing the various governors' mandatory quarantine orders of the returning aid workers.