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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:24 PM Nov 2014

IG: $2B in disability claims approved by mistake

Source: AP-EXCITE

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

WASHINGTON (AP) — A small group of Social Security judges have improperly approved disability claims for nearly 25,000 people who didn't qualify, costing taxpayers $2 billion over the past seven years, government investigators conclude in a report being released Monday.

The price tag will grow by nearly $300 million next year because many of these people are still getting benefits, the report said.

Social Security's office of inspector general is scheduled to release a report on the judges Monday. The Associated Press obtained a copy Friday.

Investigators examined cases decided by 44 judges who had been approving disability claims at unusually high rates. The judges were labeled "outliers" because they had approved 85 percent of the claims they had heard in at least two of the previous seven years. During these years, the judges decided at least 700 cases a year.

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And IF US Congress doesn't fix the disability under-fund, recipients will be losing about 1/3 of their benefit in about two years!!!!

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IG: $2B in disability claims approved by mistake (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2014 OP
On the other hand, setting aside costs, maybe the other judges were entirley too strict... hedgehog Nov 2014 #1
They arent. My mother before she died in June only got something like 750 a month. cstanleytech Nov 2014 #5
I'd like to see the list.... Historic NY Nov 2014 #2
That's pretty much the picture I get Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #4
We gonna get this money Faux pas Nov 2014 #3
I'm not angry since the B-2 bombers cost us more money. cstanleytech Nov 2014 #6
Thanks Faux pas Nov 2014 #11
That's very odd that all the "mistakes" were made in favor of the applicant. fasttense Nov 2014 #7
so have they also looked at wellstone dem Nov 2014 #8
Take a look at wellstone dem Nov 2014 #9
And now the pendulum will swing in the other direction Ruby the Liberal Nov 2014 #10

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
1. On the other hand, setting aside costs, maybe the other judges were entirley too strict...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:44 PM
Nov 2014

I've looked at disability payments - they're nothing to write home about.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
2. I'd like to see the list....
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:45 PM
Nov 2014

it took me over 5 yrs for my case to be settled the Federal Court overruled the AJ decision on appeals twice and ordered him to re-examine the evidence.

It sure seems strange given the higher level of scrutiny of a claimant when it heads in for a hearing. By this time its been reviewed and investigated and even the ALJ can produce experts to testify on the claims made.

Its always been deny, deny again and deny some more.

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
6. I'm not angry since the B-2 bombers cost us more money.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:31 PM
Nov 2014

"The total program cost including development, engineering and testing, averaged $2.1 billion per aircraft in 1997."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
7. That's very odd that all the "mistakes" were made in favor of the applicant.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:49 PM
Nov 2014

Usually when errors are made, they fall into a 50/50 category. That is 50% should have been approved and were NOT and 50% should have been disapproved and were approved (this was the kind of error found). The fact that they only found those that were approved and should have been denied and not the other way around makes me very suspicious about this Social Security's office of inspector general.

I've seen people without legs denied disability. I have a tough time believing they only found one kind of error.

wellstone dem

(4,460 posts)
9. Take a look at
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:38 PM
Nov 2014

Paul Armstrong,
LR BaileySmith,
Janice Williams Barnes,
Susan Giuffre

The national average of people who win a social security hearing if they go before an ALJ is about 60%. This makes sense as a lot of people who wouldn't win drop out as the process moves forward---

Apply--if denied and appeal
Reconsideration (another paper review)--if denied and appeal (only a small number win here_
Administrative hearing--if denied (about 60% win here)
Review by Appeals council--if denied appeal
Federal District Court

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
10. And now the pendulum will swing in the other direction
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:46 PM
Nov 2014

And the people that need the help the most will even have a harder/longer approval process to go through.

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