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(27,509 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 09:59 PM Nov 2014

McDonald's Won't Buy Simplot's GMO Potato

Source: Associated Press

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has approved Idaho-based J.R. Simplot Co.'s new genetically modified potato. But one of the company's oldest business partners — McDonald's — hasn't.

The fast-food giant says it doesn't use genetically modified potatoes, the Idaho Statesman reported.

"McDonald's USA does not source GMO potatoes, nor do we have current plans to change our sourcing practices," the company said in a statement.

<snip>

This isn't the first time the fast-food industry has resisted GMO potatoes. More than a decade ago, Monsanto brought its bug-resistant "New Leaf" line of genetically modified potato to market. Buyers, led by the fast-food industry, rejected the Monsanto spud, and it was pulled from production due to lack of business.

<snip>

Rupert potato grower Duane Grant said he's been told by buyers in the dehydrated potato industry not to plant the GMO potatoes. But he hopes to line up willing buyers so that he can plant the biotech potatoes and reap the higher yields that come with their reduced bruising, he said.

<snip>

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mcdonalds-buy-simplots-gmo-potato-26941023



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McDonald's Won't Buy Simplot's GMO Potato (Original Post) bananas Nov 2014 OP
If nobody buys them, nobody will grow them. Good for Mickey D's. 7962 Nov 2014 #1
Insuffiently Addictive Old Nick Nov 2014 #2
I thought they used cocaine instead of salt dlwickham Nov 2014 #3
Why splurge on coke when your customers will settle? Old Nick Nov 2014 #6
thank you dlwickham Nov 2014 #20
Wow! Pharaoh Nov 2014 #4
Are you implying this isn't "real" meat? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #17
I am wary of GMO crops myself... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #5
Yeah it rings false. Chemisse Nov 2014 #7
Maybe McD is tired of slipping profits and are trying to promote an aura of caring about..... marble falls Nov 2014 #8
I think..... sendero Nov 2014 #11
"Aura" is the key word. Most of organic companies have a halo effect aura, but... HuckleB Nov 2014 #46
Is it ok .... Trajan Dec 2014 #51
You can do what you want to do. HuckleB Dec 2014 #52
I have been buying Horizon organic milk. It tastes fantastic and usually has a 2 month life in the LiberalArkie Dec 2014 #53
Apparently, it doesn't stop spoilage, just the brown color from bruises and cutting. bananas Nov 2014 #12
McDonald's quit using.... sendero Nov 2014 #10
Didn't realize McD gave up pink slime. I've been boycotting them since '88 or so. But good..... marble falls Nov 2014 #13
Hey.. sendero Nov 2014 #15
Never for a second would I accuse you of shilling for the McClown! I learned from your post! marble falls Nov 2014 #16
Apparently they also stopped using beef tallow and trans fats bananas Nov 2014 #14
Fear mongering about pink slime is the same as fear mongering about GMOs. HuckleB Nov 2014 #30
If you like beef scrap and ammonia patties... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #32
Well, truth in advertising would be good. HuckleB Nov 2014 #33
And big business has been allowed awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #35
Really? HuckleB Nov 2014 #36
Shovel that shit into your own mouth DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #40
Nice pointless rant. HuckleB Nov 2014 #41
I'd be willing to bet $500 that I know a great deal more science than you do. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2014 #42
You don't accept the science of the matter, period. HuckleB Nov 2014 #44
They must taste like shit as I don't think McDonalds really cares about what goes into their food FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #9
I hate it when I find myself on the same side as McD's. nt Laffy Kat Nov 2014 #18
There's as much scientific validity to anti GMO as there is to evirus Nov 2014 #19
Aww ... Nihil Nov 2014 #23
How cute evirus Nov 2014 #25
Who said anything about you being paid? (i.e., other than you) Nihil Nov 2014 #26
Try me evirus Nov 2014 #27
Prove it. HuckleB Nov 2014 #37
So true. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #43
A LOAD OF PURE BULLSHIT! DeSwiss Dec 2014 #48
Not even close to reality. HuckleB Dec 2014 #50
Exactly my point, a lack of understanding in how science works evirus Dec 2014 #54
Glad to learn they don't buy GMO potatoes. I happen to like their food closeupready Nov 2014 #21
Big AG and the GOP have been in firm control nilesobek Nov 2014 #22
doesn't McDonald's buy on contract? eg order a year in advance GreatGazoo Nov 2014 #24
Really?? I may need to reward them by going to get some french fries. :) adigal Nov 2014 #28
They have not made a decision yet. HuckleB Nov 2014 #29
Agreed. Those who oppose Frankenfoods risk starting World War III. closeupready Nov 2014 #31
Hmm. So you don't care about companies that utilize baseless fear as a marketing tool? HuckleB Nov 2014 #34
I most certainly agree with you that consumers need information. closeupready Nov 2014 #38
Aww. That's cute. HuckleB Nov 2014 #39
I'm with you, bananas.. McDonald's! Whoda thunk it!? Cha Nov 2014 #45
I only have one comment about the above discussion ffr Dec 2014 #47
So, does this mean McDonald's is Pro Cancer...? HuckleB Dec 2014 #49
 

Old Nick

(468 posts)
2. Insuffiently Addictive
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

"At McDonald's, we insist that our fries have trace amounts of heroin, which these GMO spuds do not." - E. Jack Ulator, Vice President of Agricultural Inspection.

 

Old Nick

(468 posts)
6. Why splurge on coke when your customers will settle?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:15 PM
Nov 2014

By the way, you bear a remarkable resemblanse to former Secretary of State Clinton!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. I am wary of GMO crops myself...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:13 PM
Nov 2014

but come on- the company that makes hamburgers from pink slime is coming out against GMOs?

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
8. Maybe McD is tired of slipping profits and are trying to promote an aura of caring about.....
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 09:29 AM
Nov 2014

"the food".

sendero

(28,552 posts)
11. I think.....
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 10:17 AM
Nov 2014

.... you get the gold star.

Fact is, many if not most GMO foods provide little or no actual benefit to the consumer. I predict that more and more companies are going to publicly eschew using them, as the miniscule actual benefits to anyone but Monsanto hardly outweigh all of the liabilities.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
46. "Aura" is the key word. Most of organic companies have a halo effect aura, but...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:51 PM
Nov 2014

... their food is no better than non-organic food, and they are actually utilizing deceptive fear mongering as a marketing tactic, which is just plain old unethical.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
51. Is it ok ....
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:10 PM
Dec 2014

If I simply refuse to buy and consume GMO foods?

Does that personal choice bother you in some way? ...

Of course, so we can know, they must be identified as GMO in the marketplace ... May we have labels applied to all foods that contain GMO materials?

Is that ok with you, even if it is based on a superstitious fear of genetically engineered foodstuffs?

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
52. You can do what you want to do.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:42 PM
Dec 2014

It's your preference. However, pretending that a label for one of many types of seed development technologies makes any sense is just bizarre. You don't a science based reason, so mandatory labels are not ethical, and they certainly are not logical.

http://fafdl.org/blog/2014/08/16/a-principled-case-against-mandatory-gmo-labels/


LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
53. I have been buying Horizon organic milk. It tastes fantastic and usually has a 2 month life in the
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:32 PM
Dec 2014

fridge. I got a couple os half gallon cartons before Thanksgiving and the expire date printed on the cartons is 10-10-15.

I don't drink a lot of milk so it is great for me.


http://www.horizondairy.com/our-story

bananas

(27,509 posts)
12. Apparently, it doesn't stop spoilage, just the brown color from bruises and cutting.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 10:22 AM
Nov 2014

From what I''m reading, the potatoes are more expensive, and have no real benefits other than cosmetic.

Simplot sells frozen cut potatoes, this will let them sell non-frozen (refridgerated?) cut potatoes because they won't brown.

It allows farmers to sell bruised potatoes because they won't appear bruised.

They offer no benefit to McDonalds, because the potatoes are fried soon after being cut.

And the reduction in acrylamide has no real health benefit.


Links:

the National Cancer Institute says that scientists do not know with certainty if the levels of the chemical typically found in food are harmful to human health.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=939449


They reduce black spots from bruising, which cause a portion of each year's potato crop to go to waste as unmarketable.

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/mcdonalds-fries-innate-potato-genetically-modified-food


Simplot is one of the three massive companies (alongside ConAgra and McCain Foods) that buy potatoes from farmers, process them into French fries—as well as tater tots, spiral fries, and wedges—freeze them, and distribute them to companies ranging from fast-food giants to supermarket chains.
...
Cole offered this pitch: "Since Innate potatoes provide less bruise and less black spot and browning when peeled, as well as less asparagine, they provide a sustainable, healthy option for consumers, especially in the fresh-whole and fresh-cut markets where no preservatives or additives are needed," he said. He emphasized that "fresh-cut" potatoes are a new category, and expressed confidence that consumers would embrace the convenience.

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2014/11/simplot-innate-new-gmo-potato-mcdonalds


sendero

(28,552 posts)
10. McDonald's quit using....
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 10:15 AM
Nov 2014

.... pink slime in 2011.

In fact, the company that produced pink slime (Beef Products) has practically gone out of business because once publicized nobody wanted their product. They have sued various news organizations and others claiming slander but they have almost no chance of winning.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
13. Didn't realize McD gave up pink slime. I've been boycotting them since '88 or so. But good.....
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 10:22 AM
Nov 2014

for them. If they start paying living wages and provide a reasonable benefits package plus some healthier options on the menu - I might break my boycott.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
15. Hey..
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:09 AM
Nov 2014

.. I do not eat there and am not defending them. There are plenty of other instances where the composition of their food is suspect. That one just hit a nerve with the public, and for good reason.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
14. Apparently they also stopped using beef tallow and trans fats
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 10:25 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2014/11/simplot-innate-new-gmo-potato-mcdonalds#comment-1694691057

undrgrndgirl johnflagg • 21 hours ago

not so. in the past, mcdonalds has listened to its customers...for example, they removed beef tallow from their frying oil due to the demands of vegetarians and vegans; they also quit using trans fats...they sell lamb burgers in india because cows are sacred...if consumers don't want gmo spuds i doubt mickey d's will use them.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
30. Fear mongering about pink slime is the same as fear mongering about GMOs.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:47 PM
Nov 2014

The ridiculousness of the anti-science movement can only be equated to Fox News.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
32. If you like beef scrap and ammonia patties...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:53 PM
Nov 2014

have at it. There should be some truth in advertising. Same thing with the McRib. I will just ground my on chuck roast at home.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
33. Well, truth in advertising would be good.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:15 PM
Nov 2014

It would mean that Big Organic and all its silliness would have to face reality.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
35. And big business has been allowed
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:25 PM
Nov 2014

to redefine what beef is, and not for science but more profit. Taking the scrap parts of a cow that you wouldn't feed to a dog, grinding it up and hitting it with ammonia to make it somewhat safe to eat may fit the loose definition of ground beef, but most wouldn't eat it if they knew what it was. Like I said, if you want to eat that garbage go ahead, but don't say that those who don't are against science. We want real food, not garbage scraps that allow the share holders to get richer.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
40. Shovel that shit into your own mouth
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:33 PM
Nov 2014

...while you're not busy equating those to the left of you with those to the right of you, of course. Wouldn't want to slow down your Boudelang rant.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
42. I'd be willing to bet $500 that I know a great deal more science than you do.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:44 PM
Nov 2014

But the bottom line is that I don't accept correction from people of your ilk. See ya.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
44. You don't accept the science of the matter, period.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:49 AM
Nov 2014

And your bet is lost. Goodness, but it's funny to see someone who doesn't begin to understand science but actually believes he or she does. Yikes!

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
9. They must taste like shit as I don't think McDonalds really cares about what goes into their food
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 09:44 AM
Nov 2014

Haven't eaten at one in over a decade and never will again.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
23. Aww ...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:19 PM
Nov 2014

Another pro-corporate sleeper/sock is activated to post the usual pro-GMO smear.

How cute.

evirus

(852 posts)
25. How cute
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:25 AM
Nov 2014

Instead of trying to demonstrate how I'm wrong you instead assume I'm a paid conspirator

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
26. Who said anything about you being paid? (i.e., other than you)
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:49 AM
Nov 2014

I assume you are merely an amateur.

The proof of how you are wrong is spread across every GMO thread, usually to
different incarnations of the same people - none of whom ever modify their
stance, merely their usernames.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
48. A LOAD OF PURE BULLSHIT!
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 06:21 PM
Dec 2014
[font size=3]Exogenous plant MIR168a specifically targets mammalian LDLRAP1: evidence of cross-kingdom regulation by microRNA[/font]

Abstract

Our previous studies have demonstrated that stable microRNAs (miRNAs) in mammalian serum and plasma are actively secreted from tissues and cells and can serve as a novel class of biomarkers for diseases, and act as signaling molecules in intercellular communication. Here, we report the surprising finding that exogenous plant miRNAs are present in the sera and tissues of various animals and that these exogenous plant miRNAs are primarily acquired orally, through food intake. MIR168a is abundant in rice and is one of the most highly enriched exogenous plant miRNAs in the sera of Chinese subjects. Functional studies in vitro and in vivo demonstrated that MIR168a could bind to the human/mouse low-density lipoprotein receptor adapter protein 1 (LDLRAP1) mRNA, inhibit LDLRAP1 expression in liver, and consequently decrease LDL removal from mouse plasma. These findings demonstrate that exogenous plant miRNAs in food can regulate the expression of target genes in mammals.

CELL RESEARCH: Full Study




MONSANTO GMO's NEVER MET MINIMUM SCIENTIFIC TESTING PROTOCOL STANDARDS

"Our study contradicts Monsanto conclusions because Monsanto systematically neglects significant health effects in mammals that are different in males and females eating GMO's, or not proportional to the dose. This is a very serious mistake, dramatic for public health. This is the major conclusion revealed by our work, the only careful reanalysis of Monsanto crude statistical data."

Other Problems With Monsanto's Conclusions

When testing for drug or pesticide safety, the standard protocol is to use three mammalian species. The subject studies only used rats, yet won GMO approval in more than a dozen nations.

Chronic problems are rarely discovered in 90 days; most often such tests run for up to two years. Tests "lasting longer than three months give more chances to reveal metabolic, nervous, immune, hormonal or cancer diseases," wrote Seralini, et al, in their Doull rebuttal. [See "How Subchronic and Chronic Health Effects Can Be Neglected for GMO's, Pesticides or Chemicals." IJBS; 2009; 5(5):438-443.]

Further, Monsanto's analysis compared unrelated feeding groups, muddying the results. The June 2009 rebuttal explains, "In order to isolate the effect of the GM transformation process from other variables, it is only valid to compare the GMO … with its isogenic non-GM equivalent."

The researchers conclude that the raw data from all three GMO studies reveal novel pesticide residues will be present in food and feed and may pose grave health risks to those consuming them.






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Not surprised these poison makers got their start in the poisonous town of St. Louis....

evirus

(852 posts)
54. Exactly my point, a lack of understanding in how science works
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 07:38 AM
Dec 2014

Leads people to point to single articles or studies and think that their job is done, science isn't just the article itself it's the response to the article, for example cold fusion was claimed to be possible in an article but that never paned out

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
21. Glad to learn they don't buy GMO potatoes. I happen to like their food
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:07 PM
Nov 2014

as a treat once in a while, and enjoy their fries. Had some last night, in fact.

I still would like to see them do better in terms of employee pay, but this is a nice nugget of news from them. K&R

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
22. Big AG and the GOP have been in firm control
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:34 PM
Nov 2014

in Idaho for 3 decades. It looks like the decisions made to create and grow GMO potatoes has backfired with the people of Idaho are left to pick up the pieces. We lost the McD's contract but hey, when you are sitting in an ivory tower you can do no wrong. Balukoff (D) lost by 18 points.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
24. doesn't McDonald's buy on contract? eg order a year in advance
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:47 PM
Nov 2014

A farmer friend of mine packs onions and said that McD makes you lock in a price a year in advance and you have to deliver or buy on the commodities market and suck up the difference if that price is higher than what you contracted with to McD.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
28. Really?? I may need to reward them by going to get some french fries. :)
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 10:54 AM
Nov 2014

I love their french fries, although my waist doesn't!

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
29. They have not made a decision yet.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:45 PM
Nov 2014

However, anyone who applauds such a decisions clearly does not care about the health of people. This potato is healthier than what McD's serves now.

The anti-GMO movement is fast becoming a health danger, it appears.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
38. I most certainly agree with you that consumers need information.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:23 PM
Nov 2014

I'm glad to know you support GMO-labeling laws. Took a while, but I knew you'd come around.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
39. Aww. That's cute.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:30 PM
Nov 2014

You actually think I'm foolish enough to believe in baseless fear mongering.

BTW, if you really want to know which technology was used to develop the seeds that led to the plants that led to the food you're eating, you would be asking for labels for all seed development technologies.

The fact that you're not is part of what informs others that you are pushing baseless fear mongering.

Just an FYI.

Cha

(297,322 posts)
45. I'm with you, bananas.. McDonald's! Whoda thunk it!?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:29 AM
Nov 2014

And, stay away.. those pushing Monsanto corporate bullshite... I ain't buyin your boring monotonous refrain.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
47. I only have one comment about the above discussion
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 06:01 PM
Dec 2014

What doesn't fit? There's one commenter who has nothing positive to bring to the discussion and that one person repeatedly has nothing positive to bring to the discussion. On top of that, if you look at some of their other DU posts, they are similarly disruptive in nature. Hmmm.

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