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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:49 AM Nov 2014

More Federal Agencies Are Using Undercover Operations

Source: NY Times

WASHINGTON — The federal government has significantly expanded undercover operations in recent years, with officers from at least 40 agencies posing as business people, welfare recipients, political protesters and even doctors or ministers to ferret out wrongdoing, records and interviews show.

At the Supreme Court, small teams of undercover officers dress as students at large demonstrations outside the courthouse and join the protests to look for suspicious activity, according to officials familiar with the practice.

At the Internal Revenue Service, dozens of undercover agents chase suspected tax evaders worldwide, by posing as tax preparers, accountants drug dealers or yacht buyers and more, court records show.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/16/us/more-federal-agencies-are-using-undercover-operations.html?emc=edit_th_20141116&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=46529169&_r=0

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More Federal Agencies Are Using Undercover Operations (Original Post) LiberalElite Nov 2014 OP
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Demeter Nov 2014 #1
That is very Juvenal n/t albino65 Nov 2014 #5
Like your spelling? Fuddnik Nov 2014 #7
If I have to 'splain this...n/t albino65 Nov 2014 #10
Not to me, you don't. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #11
Very good n/t albino65 Nov 2014 #13
Oooh, I like that one! Demeter Nov 2014 #17
Difficile est satiram non scribere. valerief Nov 2014 #14
Whatever happened to the legal, dotymed Nov 2014 #2
The entrapment defense seems to have been pretty well eroded away Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #12
Good question. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #21
Wallstreet banksters are worried? L0oniX Nov 2014 #3
We have our own secret police now zeemike Nov 2014 #4
That's exactly what it is. woo me with science Nov 2014 #8
Orwell was an optimist. Fuddnik Nov 2014 #9
No I don't think he was. zeemike Nov 2014 #16
Whenever I hear someone say that both parties are the same my own experience comes to mind. jwirr Nov 2014 #6
Spook Nation Tom Ripley Nov 2014 #15
The job creators. PeoViejo Nov 2014 #18
How about churches? Let's start taking away their tax exemptions ... like that 700 Club. YOHABLO Nov 2014 #19
One method is to pose as a bigtime dope dealer. nilesobek Nov 2014 #20
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:53 AM
Nov 2014

Until the people at the levers of government are watched at least as closely as the rest of us, it's FASCISM, NOT Democracy.

Spymaster, spy upon yourself.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Not to me, you don't.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:55 PM
Nov 2014

Let me reply with another juvenal comment:

"No one ever became extremely wicked suddenly."

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
12. The entrapment defense seems to have been pretty well eroded away
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:57 PM
Nov 2014

via a large number of court decisions. The FBI in particular seems to have made an industry of setting people up with the trappings of terrorism & then busting them with bombs that they had given them.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
16. No I don't think he was.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 02:35 PM
Nov 2014

But he had no idea what technology would do for Big Brother...but the results are the same.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Whenever I hear someone say that both parties are the same my own experience comes to mind.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 12:37 PM
Nov 2014

The Rs always think that there is someone stealing their money and developed some new form of paperwork to find the thief. That is what is behind all this spying on everyone they can. It is just a newer form of surveillance. Only now it is not just about stealing money it is now also about the perceived threat to the power of the 1%. On the other side of the coin government is also afraid of threats to its power. So if it is not the Rs trying to spy on us it is our own government.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
20. One method is to pose as a bigtime dope dealer.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:47 PM
Nov 2014

They have swag and talk big, drive nice vehicle, dude all tatted up carrying a gun but he is a narc. I know of 2 people who fell for this and, sadly, were sent to prison for short terms out of fear of what the alternative sentencing guidlines would be if they were convicted. In both cases the "dealer," fronted them pounds of marijuana and made sure the deal happened that was prepared with a dozen cops. Basically, both people who fell for this are pretty harmless folk, messed up, but not immoral, horrible people. They are making criminals where none existed and its a business.

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