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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:25 AM Nov 2014

Reports: Obama expands mission in Afghanistan

Source: Associated Press

President Obama has approved the expansion of the U.S. military's role in Afghanistan next year, according to media reports.

Under a classified order signed in recent weeks by the president, U.S. forces will be able to carry out missions against militant groups, such as the Taliban, that are threatening troops or the Afghan government, according to the New York Times. The Times first reported the authorization on Friday night.

Further, U.S. jets, drones and bombers can support Afghan troops on combat missions, the Times reported.

The move comes months after Obama pledged that troops would remain in the country with two missions: to train Afghan forces and to support counterterrorism operations against al-Qaeda. Back in May, he said it was "time to turn the page" on policies that have focused on the Middle East for the past decade.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/22/obama-broadens-afghanistan-mission/19388781/



In a Shift, Obama Extends U.S. Role in Afghan Combat

WASHINGTON — President Obama decided in recent weeks to authorize a more expansive mission for the military in Afghanistan in 2015 than originally planned, a move that ensures American troops will have a direct role in fighting in the war-ravaged country for at least another year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/us/politics/in-secret-obama-extends-us-role-in-afghan-combat.html?_r=0
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Reports: Obama expands mission in Afghanistan (Original Post) jakeXT Nov 2014 OP
Mission creep sakabatou Nov 2014 #1
We're never going to turn the page CJCRANE Nov 2014 #2
Please help me out. merrily Nov 2014 #3
Yes, none of it makes sense if you dig below the surface CJCRANE Nov 2014 #4
Well, not exactly ALL play acting. Some really are dead or disabled and deprived of their livelihood merrily Nov 2014 #5
You're right. I meant on the political level. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #6
I knew what you meant. I just thought it bore saying. merrily Nov 2014 #7
Stop ctsnowman Nov 2014 #8
Ever try to stop thinking? merrily Nov 2014 #10
Thats ctsnowman Nov 2014 #11
LOL! merrily Nov 2014 #14
they need to legalize pot in every state and give it out for free dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #15
Sorry folks ctsnowman Nov 2014 #9
Wonderful news Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #12
Sigh...what Merrily and others said..n/t KoKo Nov 2014 #13
"Sí, se puede stay in Afghanistan forever" Miles Archer Nov 2014 #16
War=Death=PROFIT=War. No way will the MIC loose itself from the gov't teat. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #17

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
2. We're never going to turn the page
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:37 AM
Nov 2014

on this mission while the MIC have a say in things.

All the rhetoric in the campaign and first term was just to lull us into a false sense of security that things were changing.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Please help me out.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:44 AM
Nov 2014

I get "mission creep," but doesn't that imply the existence of a mission?

Supposedly, we started killing farmers and their families because they weren't handing over Osama to us. (As if the farmers we were bombing knew where he was and also had the authority and the ability to capture him and hand him to us. We're adorable!)

That was Bush, of course, who put our puppet in charge of Afghanistan. Though I must admit, after we brought democracy to Afghanistan, well over 90% of the Afghans kept re-electing our puppet, so he was wildly popular and that was a good thing.



Still, we didn't seem to think our puppet was withholding Osama from us, or we wouldn't have been pumping money into him and his family, would we? So, wasn't our reason for warring against Afghanistan pretty much over at the point we made Karzai head of Afghanistan?

Bush had indeed kind of wound down in Afghanistan after he invaded Iraq for no apparent reason. However, Obama claimed we'd taken our eyes off the ball (what ball?) in Afghanistan to fight the wrong war in Iraq, the implication being Afghanistan had not only been the "right war," but still was the right war, 8 years after 911 and well after Karzai was supposedly in charge. And, Obama "surged" in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, in a hilarious turn of events, it turned out that Osama was all comfy near the military academy of our allies in Pakistan; and the joke was on us--and on the troops we put in harm's way in Afghanistan and all the Afghans we had been killing and terrorizing.



At I type, Osama is still dead and our government has told us repeatedly that the Taliban has nothing to do with Al Q'aeeda. So, I seem to have lost the thread here: At some point, we found out that no one in Afghanistan was withholding Osama from us. If that didn't happen when we installed Karzai, surely, it happened once we found Osama in Pakistan. So, what's our mission in Afghanistan been since then?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. Yes, none of it makes sense if you dig below the surface
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 07:25 AM
Nov 2014

and ask a few questions.

In the end it's all theater and play acting.

The PTB create enemies and set them loose and then give us citizens the task of fighting them.

When we fight the enemy in one country they make sure there is a relatively safe haven for them just over the border in another country, so we can never completely defeat them.

And they make sure we don't go poking our noses into who is funding and profiting from all this.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Well, not exactly ALL play acting. Some really are dead or disabled and deprived of their livelihood
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 07:32 AM
Nov 2014

and relatively newly-made enemies of the US, who might like to "repay" us in kind some day.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
6. You're right. I meant on the political level.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:00 AM
Nov 2014

It's very real for the people involved on the ground. That's what makes it so awful.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. I knew what you meant. I just thought it bore saying.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:07 AM
Nov 2014

I'm not really sure why I thought that. Our species never seems to tire of war, especially wars we don't have to watch or hear about.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. they need to legalize pot in every state and give it out for free
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:24 PM
Nov 2014

maybe then we can stop thinking about all the lies and mis-direction.

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
9. Sorry folks
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:48 AM
Nov 2014

but we are going to need to dip into the social security trust fund a little more to pay for this. But trust us we will never cut benefits.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
12. Wonderful news
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:13 AM
Nov 2014

And I hear we're putting more ground troops back in Iraq, too!

Could you ask for more from our glorious leader?

Sincerely,
Halliburton

P.S. Check your Cayman Islands account for those "speaking fees" we discussed.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
17. War=Death=PROFIT=War. No way will the MIC loose itself from the gov't teat.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:33 PM
Nov 2014
"Hope."
"Change."
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