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Omaha Steve

(99,628 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:11 PM Dec 2014

St. Louis Police Officers Association Condemns Rams Players' 'Hands Up' Gesture

Source: Huffington Post

By Andrew Hart

The St. Louis Police Officers Association condemned the "hands up, don't shoot" gesture that several St. Louis Rams players made during the game on Sunday as a show of support for Ferguson protesters.

A statement by the organization called for the players who participated in the act to be disciplined, and demanded the Rams and the NFL apologize:

The St. Louis Police Officers Association is profoundly disappointed with the members of the St. Louis Rams football team who chose to ignore the mountains of evidence released from the St. Louis County Grand Jury this week and engage in a display that police officers around the nation found tasteless, offensive and inflammatory.

Before the game in St. Louis against the Oakland Raiders, five Rams players ran onto the field with their hands raised in a show of support for Ferguson protesters. The "hands up, don't shoot" gesture has come to represent surrendering to police, and has been used to protest the killing of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Mo. Police Officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9. Some witnesses claimed Brown had his hands up when he was shot.

FULL story at link.




Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/30/st-louis-police-rams-hands-up_n_6245792.html



I said yesterday when the news broke that I was glad the PLAYERS have a union behind them. Players will be targeted for tickets etc now???

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St. Louis Police Officers Association Condemns Rams Players' 'Hands Up' Gesture (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
Yeah? Well fuck you, St. Louis Police Officers Association! Aristus Dec 2014 #1
Jinx! I came here to say the same. lovemydog Dec 2014 #2
Aw, that's sweet. Aristus Dec 2014 #4
you took the words out of my fingers Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #9
LOL...This assclown is a real winner: Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #15
Damn straight. Lugnut Dec 2014 #24
Hey St. Louis Police Union! DeSwiss Dec 2014 #3
Sensitivity Training turbinetree Dec 2014 #5
does this police gang have any idea olddots Dec 2014 #6
Time for some collective bargaining unit solidarity with its members. Support KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #7
carl.francis@nflplayers.com lovemydog Dec 2014 #8
Thank you so much for doing that! Text of my email to Mr. Francis is KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #10
Oh, it felt good KingCharlemagne. lovemydog Dec 2014 #17
The St. Louis Police Officers Association Stainless Dec 2014 #11
They should be concerned about one of their own getting away with murder CanonRay Dec 2014 #12
NFL to the St. Louis Police Officers Association: Go pound sand Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #13
Police Intimidation Cartoonist Dec 2014 #14
This statement he made is intimidation and very very wrong. uppityperson Dec 2014 #16
You're correct. Very very wrong. lovemydog Dec 2014 #19
Faux News trashes EVERYTHING a union ever says, yet... Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #18
Why lsewpershad Dec 2014 #20
i don't remember if they were outraged at the killing of an unarmed man? samsingh Dec 2014 #21
I hope no AA referees quickly reached for their waistbands during the game reflection Dec 2014 #22
They really think we bought the snow job? Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #23
Good points throughout this thread Carolina Dec 2014 #25
I wonder if players on other teams will start to do it...? left_of_center Dec 2014 #26
The family of Michael Brown condemn you leaving their dead son in the streets for 4 hours. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #27
The police units is being stupid with this demand Gothmog Dec 2014 #28
No worse than Tim Thomas boycott of the White House. muntrv Dec 2014 #29

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. LOL...This assclown is a real winner:
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:25 PM
Dec 2014
"Roorda" is SLPOA business manager Jeff Roorda, a former cop who was fired for repeatedly lying and falsifying reports and who now pushes his anti-transparency campaign in Missouri's legislature. You can read the full statement over at KSDK.

http://deadspin.com/st-louis-cops-declare-rams-hands-up-dont-shoot-to-be-1665003269
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/09/nixon_stumps_for_rep_jeff_roorda_an_ex-cop_who_says_body_cameras_make_people_less_safe.php?page=2
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
3. Hey St. Louis Police Union!
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:28 PM
Dec 2014
- Go fuck yourselves!

And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

K&R!



''If we don't fight now, I guess we'll have to be kicked.....''

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
5. Sensitivity Training
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:30 PM
Dec 2014

Guess what maybe the St.Louis police should have in there training program on when someone puts there hands up they should not shoot first and then ask questions later and just maybe they could and should take a sensitivity training class, since they have failed to serve and protect right along with the bias city prosecutor.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
7. Time for some collective bargaining unit solidarity with its members. Support
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:48 PM
Dec 2014

the Rams 5.

Contact info for the NFL Players Association:

https://www.nflplayers.com/About-us/Department--Contacts/

(Click on the Communications tab to reach the department that handles media.)

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
8. carl.francis@nflplayers.com
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:54 PM
Dec 2014

I just wrote a brief friendly email saying thank to the Rams players for showing their support for the people of Ferguson, and that I fully support their actions.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
10. Thank you so much for doing that! Text of my email to Mr. Francis is
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:06 PM
Dec 2014

pasted below:

Dear Mr. Francis:

I'm not much of a sports fan and couldn't begin to explain the difference between a tight end and a wide receiver. But I'm writing you to express my strong and unqualified support for the Rams 5 gesture of "Hands Up, Don't Shoot!" before yesterday's game and to ask that your organization speak out on their behalf and condemn the remarks of Jeff Roorda, the Executive Director of the St. Louis Police Officers Association.

NFL players do not relinquish their First Amendment rights to Free Speech when they don a team uniform, Roorda's ugly threats notwithstanding. I actually think it would be a very moving gesture were every player of every team to do something similar at next week's game. I mean, without the players, the game and league cease to exist.

Please support the Rams 5. They put their asses on the line for a very important principle - the right to freedom of speech. I might even become an NFL fan if you do! (And, let me tell you, as an English teacher, I would be moving my own mountain to Mohammed to do so!

Warmest regards and solidarity with your collective bargaining unit,


The union needs to know the public has its back.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
17. Oh, it felt good KingCharlemagne.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:40 PM
Dec 2014

I am so fed up I could scream.

Your email is outstanding. I love how you write.

Even more - how you think and speak out. Have a wonderful day.

Stainless

(718 posts)
11. The St. Louis Police Officers Association
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:22 PM
Dec 2014

Should apologize for the behavior of their members. Police officers everywhere are clueless about how fed up people truly are with the bullying and the violence and the shootings perpetrated on citizens and especially on minorities.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
12. They should be concerned about one of their own getting away with murder
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:43 PM
Dec 2014

not a peaceful protest gesture. Talk about a group that has lost its way.

Brother Buzz

(36,427 posts)
13. NFL to the St. Louis Police Officers Association: Go pound sand
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:46 PM
Dec 2014
NFL says it won't discipline Rams players for Ferguson protest

The NFL will not adhere to a request from the St. Louis Police Officer’s Association to discipline St. Louis Rams players who did the “hands up, don’t shoot” pose used by protesters in Ferguson, Mo. during pre-game introductions on Sunday.

“We respect and understand the concerns of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports.

The police officer’s association issued a letter late Sunday condemning the players’ actions as “tasteless, offensive and inflammatory” given a grand jury’s decision not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson in the fatal shooting of black teenager Michael Brown.

Five Rams players raised their hands as they walked out of the tunnel onto the field at the Edwards Jones Dome before Sunday’s game against the Oakland Raiders.

<snip>

Tight end Jared Cook said he and his teammates wanted to show solidarity with protesters, because they had not been able to physically join them since the grand jury’s announcement was made last week. Cook said his family members went to Ferguson last week and reported back to him what they saw.

<snip>

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/nfl-rams-ferguson-protest

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
14. Police Intimidation
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:48 PM
Dec 2014
A statement by the organization called for the players who participated in the act to be disciplined, and demanded the Rams and the NFL apologize.
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This is police intimidation. This isn't just a complaint, they are telling the NFL to take action against the players. The NFL should sue the St. Louis Police Officers Association, or at least file a criminal complaint.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
16. This statement he made is intimidation and very very wrong.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:37 PM
Dec 2014
"I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights," SLPOA business manager Jeff Roorda said in the statement. "Well, I've got news for people who think that way: Cops have First Amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours. I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products. It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do. Somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. If it's not the NFL and the Rams, then it'll be cops and their supporters."

Omaha Steve

(99,628 posts)
18. Faux News trashes EVERYTHING a union ever says, yet...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

They are all over this. Thanks to Thom Hartman for pointing that out just now.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
22. I hope no AA referees quickly reached for their waistbands during the game
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:27 PM
Dec 2014

in order to throw the penalty flag. They might have died in a hail of bullets.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
23. They really think we bought the snow job?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:02 PM
Dec 2014

"The St. Louis Police Officers Association is profoundly disappointed with the members of the St. Louis Rams football team who chose to ignore the mountains of evidence released from the St. Louis County Grand Jury this week."



He said "mountains of evidence"

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
25. Good points throughout this thread
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:27 PM
Dec 2014

but I want to add another. Those NFL players know all too well that out of uniform and on any American street, they too could be a Michael Brown! So their peaceful show of support had deeper meaning

And yes, fuck the St. Louis Police Officers Association and the murdering, intimidating klansmen it represents.

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