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brooklynite

(94,520 posts) Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:17 PM Dec 2014

Former NY Gov. George Pataki again exploring long-shot bid for presidency

Source: NY Daily News

Former Gov. George Pataki is again dipping his toe into the presidential waters — even as political experts give the Republican virtually no shot for the 2016 race.

Pataki in recent weeks has traveled twice to New Hampshire. He’s also hitting South Carolina to kick off this week.

He has been in contact with national Republican donors and even has an ad — funded by the super PAC Americans for Real Change — on TV titled “It’s Time for a New America” that calls for “less government, more freedom.”

In a Nov. 20 tweet touting a trip to New Hampshire, Pataki wrote that “America needs a President who respects our Constitution” and included the hashtag “immigration” — a reference to President Obama’s executive order sparing millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/ex-gov-george-pataki-dips-toe-presidential-waters-blog-entry-1.2028557

I hope you folks appreciate the entertainment value we New Yorkers provide.....

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Former NY Gov. George Pataki again exploring long-shot bid for presidency (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2014 OP

Why is this sheer entertainment value? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #1

In 40 years of voting HockeyMom Dec 2014 #2

He got me into a lot of hot water JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #4

Sounds to me like someone is angling for a cabinet position. Johnyawl Dec 2014 #3

Sure! Why not?! There's plenty of room in the clown car. (nt) apnu Dec 2014 #5

Good. Need more challengers, and choices. TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #6

He has already met with the Koch brothers JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #7

Interesting. My deal is, if Hillary (assuming it's her) goes down in 2016 TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #12

Web is a good disruptor JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #15

"Long shot" is an understatement. He needs to take up a new hobby not run for POTUS. Vinca Dec 2014 #8

I remember back when there were sane Republicans walking the earth Retrograde Dec 2014 #9

He's certainly sane (if politically sleazy) when it comes to policy... brooklynite Dec 2014 #10

not sure I would write him off so soon --- he could be 2016's Romney karynnj Dec 2014 #11

Um, Romney was actually ATTRACTIVE as a candidate... brooklynite Dec 2014 #13

Good to hear -- I seriously can't remember ever hearing him speak -- but GWB was rather poor as well karynnj Dec 2014 #14

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)

1. Why is this sheer entertainment value?

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:20 PM

Dec 2014

At the end of the day - a lot of young people in NY that voted for Bill Clinton twice - voted for Pataki twice.

I'm one of them.

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)

2. In 40 years of voting

Reply to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:25 PM

Dec 2014

Pataki was only the 2nd (Ford 1st) Republican I ever voted for back when I was an Independent. However, he was a matter of Fool Me Once, etc.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)

4. He got me into a lot of hot water

Reply to HockeyMom (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:28 PM

Dec 2014

At a family picnic - voting for him - and get this - NOT Golisano - caused my dad to put me at the kiddie table.

Hmph!

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)

3. Sounds to me like someone is angling for a cabinet position.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:26 PM

Dec 2014

or possibly a contract with Fox

apnu

(8,756 posts)

5. Sure! Why not?! There's plenty of room in the clown car. (nt)

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:41 PM

Dec 2014

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

6. Good. Need more challengers, and choices.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:48 PM

Dec 2014

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)

7. He has already met with the Koch brothers

Reply to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:50 PM

Dec 2014

Did so late summer of this year. I'd say - he's in it.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

12. Interesting. My deal is, if Hillary (assuming it's her) goes down in 2016

Reply to JustAnotherGen (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:11 PM

Dec 2014

for some reason, I'd rather see someone not-crazy/not-Bush/not-Romney win. The more people in the pool, on both sides, the better, as far as I'm concerned. I also am glad Webb appears to be running.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)

15. Web is a good disruptor

Reply to TwilightGardener (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:30 PM

Dec 2014

Bot a first choice for me - but a Goid disruptor.

And God forbid Hillary loses - someone like Pataki wouldn't be frightening.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)

8. "Long shot" is an understatement. He needs to take up a new hobby not run for POTUS.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:25 PM

Dec 2014

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)

9. I remember back when there were sane Republicans walking the earth

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:23 PM

Dec 2014

If Pataki can help pull the GOP back towards the center more power to him. Still can't bring myself to vote for a Republican, though.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)

10. He's certainly sane (if politically sleazy) when it comes to policy...

Reply to Retrograde (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:33 PM

Dec 2014

...definitely NOT with respect to assessing his chances of being President.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)

11. not sure I would write him off so soon --- he could be 2016's Romney

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:04 PM

Dec 2014

winning the nomination after all the crazies implode. Consider they are taking Perry, who proved himself a fool in 2012 and is now indicted, seriously. Romney was a one term governor, who was deeply disliked by the end of his term. Pataki got re-elected. MA is bluer than NY, but NY is pretty blue. (The biggest problem might be that the Republicans may consider they went centrist twice with McCain (who is pretty conservative) and Romney and lost -- so they may see they need someone to "energize" the base. )

Not to put any credibility into any poll done 2 years out, the recent Quinipiac poll has Romney beating Hillary Clinton, while others are running closely behind her. (I don't trust this as it is a big jump from a month ago with very little reason for the shift. ) What I wonder is whether a Romney like candidate, who is not the weird Mitt Romney, could be tough to beat. Pataki might be that person.
http://pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm

He is lucky in that he left the governorship before the collapse of the economy. He could possibly be seen, like Bill Clinton, as from a time when things were better. (Then again though I lived in NJ then, I have no clear memories of much of anything that he did.)

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)

13. Um, Romney was actually ATTRACTIVE as a candidate...

Reply to karynnj (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:26 PM

Dec 2014

...yes he was contrived and he sold out all his principles to suck up to the Tea Party, but he can deliver a speech is a way Pataki never could.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)

14. Good to hear -- I seriously can't remember ever hearing him speak -- but GWB was rather poor as well

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:30 PM

Dec 2014

It may be fortunate that Romney already won and lost -- I know that Nixon was nominated twice, but there was a gap in between.

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